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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC6600 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 12:53:57 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <20240723125357.00005660@yahoo.com> References: <v7fss8$3f712$1@dont-email.me> <v7fuqu$3fg81$2@dont-email.me> <2k3q9j1lqngjsfmts49q6l3825nipf91rq@4ax.com> <v7k0gm$8pms$13@dont-email.me> <a11cff7fe912529a0a7962163afe43d8@www.novabbs.org> <v7k7ok$a7tn$5@dont-email.me> <lg6gtgFlcf1U1@mid.individual.net> <hftt9jlpt706nkt0rnrqeu2j7l0caunb00@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 11:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="13ef830bf2b3f0c9f0d6691a9de09cf2"; logging-data="1214705"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX181QNTlYsyWIycF0beH2zTph9/RrENEtF8=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:bH4dFtH1ei+3NmLF3hdaGm5Km78= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 3357 On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 18:18:52 -0600 John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:43:44 +0300, Niklas Holsti > <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> wrote: > >On 2024-07-22 3:05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: =20 > >> On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 22:21:41 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > >> =20 > >>> IBM CEO said something to the effect:: How can a team of 24 > >>> people, including the janitor, beat IBM ?? =20 > >>=20 > >> From Watson=E2=80=99s memo: > >>=20 > >> Last week Control Data had a press conference during which > >> they officially announced their 6600 system. I understand that in > >> the laboratory developing this system there are only 34 people, > >> including the janitor. Of these, 14 are engineers and 4 are > >> programmers, and only one person has a Ph.D., a relatively > >> junior programmer. Contrasting this modest effort with our own vast > >> development activities, I fail to understand why we have lost > >> our industry leadership position by letting someone else offer the > >> world=E2=80=99s most powerful computer. =20 > > > >Per Wikipedia, Cray's reply was sardonic: "It seems like Mr. Watson > >has answered his own question." =20 >=20 > While IBM did not appear to understand the wisdom in Cray's remark at > the time - that a large organization can have internal politics and > communications overhead and other things that hamper innovation - it > did _eventually_ learn its lesson. >=20 > So when it came time for IBM to make its mark in the new, emerging > field of microcomputers, it had a small team, working in isolation > from the rest of IBM, go and design the IBM Personal Computer in all > its 4.77 MHz 8088 glory. >=20 > John Savard I don't like how IBM screwed interrupts architecture of IBM PC, completely ignoring Intel's recommendation to assign hardware interrupts to INT #32 and higher. The unnecessary mess they created had negative effect for a long time, 15 years at least. Also I am not sure that at time (1981) 8250 was the optimal choice for UART chip.