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References: <n~3P6.+'=.1@miakinen.net> <v7nelk$g37$1@cabale.usenet-fr.net> <v7p59g$4t3s$1@news.usenet.ovh> <20240724.004328.92387ba5@mixmin.net> <c199c8a9-0331-1fee-05b8-90db58ceac05@Strand_in_London.Gov.UK> <20240724.155857.8331bef9@mixmin.net> <88d29faa-def6-d3e6-b2a3-12005239d809@Strand_in_London.Gov.UK> Subject: Re: Canal+ crash - Re: Annulation : Crosspost excessif Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20240724.191405.f8956a01@mixmin.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2024 19:14:05 +0100 From: D <noreply@mixmin.net> Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128 Bytes: 4029 Lines: 57 On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 17:42:51 +0200, Nicolas Paul Colin de Glocester <Master_Fontaine_is_dishonest@Strand_in_London.Gov.UK> wrote: >On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, D wrote: >"thank you for your reply . . ." > >Thanks likewise for replying politely. > >On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, D wrote: >"cross-posting to the usenet newsgroups may have seemed like a >good idea at the time, but the mondation of '93 aka "eternal september" >flooded usenet into the meslee; one or two cross-posted newsgroups may >seem reasonable to some, but posting articles separately, one group at >a time i.e. without cross-posting, makes better sense, irrespective of >what some have called "multi-posting" because not all usenet newsgroup >subscribers, contributors, lurkers, etc., are actually reading in more >than one of those included newsgroups; anyone can assign "follow-up to" >when replying to articles that were posted in one newsgroup to another >newsgroup (etiquette to announce follow-up in body of reply), so there >was never any need for the inherently awkward praxis of "cross-posting"" > >Dict.cc and WWW.Merriam-Webster.com and a dictionary failed to explain >"mondation" to me and I did not look up "meslee". it's archaic, e.g. l'vniuerselle mondation, l'vniuersel deluge, in reference to the worldwide inundation better known as noah's flood; plenty of old dictionaries on-line, for old french i've used these: thresor de la langue (1606): https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Thresor_de_la_langue_fran%C3%A7oise https://artfl.atilf.fr/dictionnaires/TLF-NICOT/index.htm e.g., look up the word "meslee" from the main page: http://portail.atilf.fr/cgi-bin/dico1look.pl?strippedhw=meslee dictionarium latinogallicum (1552): https://la.wikisource.org/wiki/Liber:Dictionarium_latinogallicum_-_Estienne,_1552,_A-Ins.djvu https://artfl.atilf.fr/dictionnaires/ESTIENNE/index.htm >Thanks for appreciating that I do not attempt to annoy you. I am in the >space industry as an ex-employee of the European Space Agency where we >believe that redundancy (backups) is an essential policy. I continue >during more than twenty years of USENET to think that cross-posting is >good. I rarely do it, because most USENET articles by me are suited for a >small number of newsgroups. For an example of a person who disagrees with >me, cf. a Java programmer many years ago. >Eternal September does not permit cross-posting to more than 3 newsgroups, >which I recently find to be too restrictive. But hey! Eternal September is >gratis and good. Not all USENET servers carry the same newsgroups. >Following upto just 1 newsgroup can deprive readers (who read the start of >a thread) of important contributions to a thread. >I refer you to the last paragraph of >news:0f0dc30e-a92d-364f-ed16-1247fb220b57@Strand_in_London.Gov.UK >With best regards, >N. C. P. de G. probably myriads of usenet newsgroup subscribers have saved and shared cherry-picked articles and perhaps entire archives from their favorite newsgroups over these decades since usenet became popular . . . surely governments do these things routinely, thus redundancy is to the nines