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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Instruction Tracing Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 11:09:18 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <20240812110918.00005ea5@yahoo.com> References: <v970s3$flpo$1@dont-email.me> <2024Aug10.121802@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v995pm$1cni$2@gal.iecc.com> <2024Aug11.164438@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v9bg6n$2u0ud$2@dont-email.me> <2024Aug12.072929@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v9cabd$363e5$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 10:08:42 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2556c59b1c899658c092ba80d28007fd"; logging-data="3379084"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19a/Q6y89kI8RRZg5GIVeYSMqBZoWRXDYw=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:XGCULSHPZq9YgMOzyZuhAxuAupE= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2406 On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 06:33:17 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 05:29:29 GMT, Anton Ertl wrote: >=20 > > Already the 21064 is two-wide superscalar (1 integer unit, 1 FPU, 1 > > load/store unit, don't remember if the branch unit could run in > > parallel to the ALU; I think not). And it has very high clock > > speeds for its time; it appeared with 150MHz while the competition > > was like 50MHz (SuperSPARC, superscalar) to 100MHz (MIPS R4000, not > > superscalar), or, for Power, 62.5MHz in the POWER1++. But POWER1 > > (without ++) preceded the 21064 by 2 years. =20 >=20 > But in spite of having, say, 2=C2=BD times the clock speed of POWER, Alpha > was not 2=C2=BD times faster, was it? Of course not.=20 But Alpha EV4 was single chip vs multiple chips in POWER1 or 3 chips of contemporary PA-RISC. More relevant comparison is EV4 vs IBM RSC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC_Single_Chip I think that EV4 was 3-5 times faster than RSC. Back in 1992-1993 I was not impressed by speed of RS/6000 model 220 relatively to i486 PCs. Frankly, 220 was running much heavier software stack.