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From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: technology discussion =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=86=92?= does the world need
 a "new" C ?
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 12:38:10 +0300
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On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 02:18:15 -0700
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
> [...]
> > IMHO, C++ is a particularly bad example.
> > Yes, C++ has call-by-reference misfeature. But arrays in C++ are
> > 2nd class citizen, same as in C. They can't be assigned and can't be
> > passed to callee, neither by value nor by reference.
> >
> > Also, I suspect that if you ask Ken Thompson, he will tell you that
> > C++ does not really have 'call by reference'. Instead, it has
> > references as 1st class object, so, naturally, values of references
> > can be used during 'call by value'. 
> > I have enough of respect to KT to consider that his POV is not a
> > nonsense.  
> 
> Is that an attempt at proof by authority?  

Yes!

> Not only does Ken Thompson
> have very little to do with C++, but you're basing your conclusion on
> what you *suspect* he would say.
> 

Yes, but it's not baseless.
It is based on following section Go language FAQs that I assumed to be
either authored or approved by KT.
https://go.dev/doc/faq#pass_by_value