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Subject: Re: Telegram Founder Pavel Durov Arrested in France
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On 27 Aug 2024 11:48:15 GMT, Julius Bernotas <gaussianblue@tilde.pink> wrote:
>Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> writes:
>>D. Ray:
>>> Telegram founder Pavel Durov was arrested in France on
>>> Saturday allegedly as part of an investigation into his
>>> platform for not having enough "moderation."
>
>>It is not so much about moderation as about his pricipal
>>refusal to disclose the encryption keys to third parties
>>(including the Russian government).
>>Considering the extensive use of Telegram by the Russian
>>military as a means of secure communication on the Ukrainian
>>front (for lack of a better one), the sad joke here is the
>>they arrested our Chief of Communications.  Rumours have it
>>that Durov has anticipated his arrest and activated a
>>security protocol ensuring the French not get access.
>
>IIRC Telegram's founder originally fled Russia and went to Israel.
>The Russian authorities had difficulties tracking down people
>who were writing things that were against the official line
>of the regime on Telegram. So the Russian authorities got annoyed
>by Telegram and Telegram's founder had to flee Russia.
>The Russian authorities even slowed down the speed of
>internet connections to Telegram's servers inside Russia
>on February 2022 and in the 6 following months. I wonder
>if the internet speed for connections to Telegram's servers is
>still artificially being slowed down.
>I'm trying to figure out whether
>I understand you correctly. Are you saying that Telegram
>is an official means of communication for the Russian military
>on the Ukrainian front? Or are you saying that Telegram is used
>on the front as a normal means of communication? Used mainly
>by soldiers. To keep in touch with their circle of friends. Any
>people anywhere in the world would use Telegram to keep in touch with
>their circle of friends. Not just Russian soldiers on the Ukrainian
>front. And are you saying that Telegram is not a means of 
>communication used by Russian military officials on the
>Ukrainian front? To transmit orders for example.

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# mnemonic "third part", mutable, siva

why would anyone, military or otherwise, use open channels, public
social media for example, to communicate top-secret/sensitive data,
entrusting corporate criminals with encryption? ...pigs have wings

as a casual user of remailers for posting to newsgroups, "privacy"
is a simple matter, because none of the plain text content posted
to these unmoderated newsgroup forums requires decryption to read;
but some users may have more serious concerns about prevention of
"unauthorized" access to unencrypted content regardless of format
or function, in such cases "whole message encryption" is strongly
recommended . . . see https://www.danner-net.de/omom/tutorwme.htm