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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Telegram Founder Pavel Durov Arrested in France Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 19:31:10 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <20240904193110.1a3d3289930d571705bbf464@g{oogle}mail.com> References: <FqmgbOsAxTlCaFjHxRryueVBCCwfPzAQ@news.usenet.farm> <20240826133126.6dbc0828f51bf0070cc4ab1f@g{oogle}mail.com> <lj5snvFiu5qU1@mid.dfncis.de> <20240827.135844.58f552a5@mixmin.net> <20240827161451.3660d1d60a55b0a15288ef4c@g{oogle}mail.com> <JFYnfCxjBurQFTVjIOTPBiYVXLZTBXEg@news.usenet.farm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 18:31:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="37cc2f553d81b5671a5e3427947d23d3"; logging-data="4107869"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19TRMtnL5v+ni8W3Z4KVyKKVBxE17czHC0=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:mc375gOFTeEl1DD+qEAEN3Euzl8= X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) Bytes: 2435 D. Ray (Unicode punctuation removoed): > > Telegram's point-to-point chats are not so open, and the > > Russian military have no secure messenger of their own. > > I find it hard to believe. Basic messenger is not that > hard to create, and adding encryption functionality based > on, for example, PGP, is also not that hard. It is not a case of tried-and-failed. It is a case of corruption and buereaucracy run amok, to the the degree of state treason. The Russian army lacks such basic things as cable and field telephones, camouflage networks, and even boxes for MG belts. Volunteers develop, produce, and supply all those, in direly insufficient quantities however... > Military wouldn't need most of functionality of modern > messengers, such as animated stickers or stories. Normal civil users wouldn't need them either, but who cares? They used to say about the classic free market that demand determined supply. Now supply determines demand, because the suppliers manipulate the consumers. -- () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments