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On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:30:29 +0100
Bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:

> On 10/09/2024 12:55, David Brown wrote:
> > On 10/09/2024 12:52, Bart wrote: =20
>=20
> >> I've archived your post for if/when I get back to that project.
> >> (If I ever use Forth, it'll be on my own terms. I just tried it to
> >> see if it's still breathing:
> >> =20
> >> =C2=A0=C2=A0c:\qapps>qq forth =20
> >> =C2=A0=C2=A0Bart-Forth
> >> =C2=A0=C2=A0Type bye to stop =20
> >> =C2=A0=C2=A0> 2 2 + . =20
> >> =C2=A0=C2=A04 =20
> >> =C2=A0=C2=A0> bye =20
> >> =20
> >=20
> > But it handle :
> >=20
> > : 2 1 ;
> > 2 2 + .
> >=20
> > and get the answer 2 ?=C2=A0 :-) =20
>=20
> Apparently:
>=20
>    c:\qapps>qq forth =20
>    Bart-Forth
>    Type bye to stop
>    > : 2 1 ; =20
>=20
>    > 2 2 + . =20
>    2
>    > =20
>=20
>=20
> >  =20
> >> So it looks like I already thought of it as my version.)
> >> =20
> >>>>> To give more background, bare ZX81 had 1kB RAM (including video
> >>>>> RAM). =20
> >>>>
> >>>> You must mean /excluding/ surely? Otherwise there wouldn't be
> >>>> much left from 1KB! =20
> >>>
> >>> There is not much left.=C2=A0 But there is a trick: boundary between
> >>> video memory and rest is movable, as you fill other part available
> >>> screen area shrinks.=C2=A0 It does not take long time to have machine
> >>> completely filled out with no free space left (and IIRC some
> >>> small screen area for out of memory message) =20
> >>
> >> So that meagre 1KB had to be shared?
> >> =20
> >=20
> > Yes.=C2=A0 24 lines of 32 characters took 768 bytes, and the OS and
> > BASIC took another 125 bytes.=C2=A0 There was not a lot of space for
> > user code and data! =20
>=20
> An OS /and/ BASIC takes 125 bytes? You can't really complain about
> bloat here! Windows is probably 20GB and doesn't have Basic.
>=20
>=20
>=20

I think that Windows comes with VBScript, which can be considered
Basic dialect, installed by default. It certainly was still here in
latest incarnations of Win10. I didn't check if it presents in 11.

Checked Wikipedia. Still here. Removal planned for 2027 or later.