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From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Computer architects leaving Intel...
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 14:29:48 +0300
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 03:12:11 -0700
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
> BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > Would be nice, say, if there were semi-standard compiler macros for
> > various things:
> > Endianess (macros exist, typically compiler specific);
> > And, apparently GCC and Clang can't agree on which strategy to
> > use. Whether or not the target/compiler allows misaligned memory
> > access; If set, one may use misaligned access.
> > Whether or not memory uses a single address space;
> > If set, all pointer comparisons are allowed.
> >
> > [elaborations on the above]
>
> I suppose it's natural for hardware-type folks to want features
> like this to be part of standard C. In a sense what is being
> asked is to make C a high-level assembly language. But that's
> not what C is. Nor should it be.
Why not?
I don't see practical need for all those UBs apart from buffer
overflow. More so, I don't see the need for UB in certain limited
classes of buffer overflows.
struct {
char x[8]
int y;
} bar;
bar.y = 0; bar.x[8] = 42;
IMHO, here behavior should be fully defined by implementation. And
in practice it is. Just not in theory.