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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Computer architects leaving Intel... Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 12:52:48 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <20240917125248.00002a95@yahoo.com> References: <vaqgtl$3526$1@dont-email.me> <p1cvdjpqjg65e6e3rtt4ua6hgm79cdfm2n@4ax.com> <2024Sep10.101932@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <ygn8qvztf16.fsf@y.z> <2024Sep11.123824@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vbsoro$3ol1a$1@dont-email.me> <867cbhgozo.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20240912142948.00002757@yahoo.com> <vbuu5n$9tue$1@dont-email.me> <20240915001153.000029bf@yahoo.com> <vc6jbk$5v9f$1@paganini.bofh.team> <20240915154038.0000016e@yahoo.com> <vc70sl$285g2$4@dont-email.me> <vc73bl$28v0v$1@dont-email.me> <OvEFO.70694$EEm7.38286@fx16.iad> <32a15246310ea544570564a6ea100cab@www.novabbs.org> <vc7a6h$2afrl$2@dont-email.me> <50cd3ba7c0cbb587a55dd67ae46fc9ce@www.novabbs.org> <vc8qic$2od19$1@dont-email.me> <fCXFO.4617$9Rk4.4393@fx37.iad> <vcb730$3ci7o$1@dont-email.me> <20240917112114.00003481@yahoo.com> <vcbiun$3evls$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:52:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="230b2ded398db3592516a771801d7f1a"; logging-data="3586719"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+VNSaPvqNVqY3FbDgbRdl0FDfKzLCua5Y=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:oXJBpToILB4gYT/2fMTtoWyBk+M= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2729 On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:42:47 +0200 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> wrote: > Michael S wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 08:20:15 +0200 > > Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> wrote: > > > >> EricP wrote: > >>> These double-width bit-field straddle operations show up at > >>> 32-bits. Various FP64 formats (DEC's middle-endian FP being the > >>> worst example), Intel page table entries and segment/gate > >>> descriptors, come to mind. > >> > >> Lots of them in 32-bit code! > > > > Lot's of what in 32-bit code? > > > > Pretty much any 64-bit container with non-regular contents, with the > suggest double / fp64 as the classic example? > > Terje > You mean struct { int a; double b; } where on 32-bit target we expect that b is not padded? And then mantissa of b crosses 64-bit boundary? But mantissa of b is not accessed as bit field in a typical program.