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From: Don <g@crcomp.net>
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Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 15:05:23 -0000 (UTC)
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Titus G wrote:
> Don wrote:
>> Titus G wrote:
>>> Don wrote:
>>>> The Horny Goat wrote:
>>>>> Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't recall Trump holding a whip in his fist after being shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't recall much being made of the assassination attempt in the
>>>>> debate at all frankly especially not by the heavily Dem leaning ABC
>>>>> crew.
>>>>
>>>> Another assassination attempt?!?!
>>>>
>>>> The State, Deep in the bowels of hell, acts as though Trump can
>>>> singlehandedly reverse centuries of sociological ratcheting.
>>>>
>>>> ObSF:
>>>>
>>>> "Flow my Tears" the Francis "Shakespeare" Bacon said.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't understand, but then I only understand really twisted PK Dick
>>> for only a short time after reading.
>>>
>>> Flow, my tears, fall from your springs,
>>> Exiled for ever, let me mourn
>>> Where night's black bird her sad infamy sings,
>>> There let me live forlorn.
>>> Unknown. (Perhaps, Constable Bacon.)
>>
>> London invented the legal fiction called a corporation. Then gave its
>> corporation equal rights with humans. (As an aside, it'd be interesting
>> to know if the City of London Corporation, commonly called the Crown,
>> was incorporated first.)
>>     At this point it's important to differentiate global, City of London
>> sized corporations from infinitesimally smaller mom and pop
>> corporations. Because big boys at the top of corporate feudalism love to
>> hide the dirty details of crony Capitalism behind mom and pop and
>> pretend everything's existentially entrepreneurial based. Besides, big
>> boys believe it's not fair to force trust babies to compete against real
>> boys believe it's not fair to force trust babies to compete against real
>> world entrepreneurs.
>>
>> Francis Bacon revealed his dream in _New Atlantis_. He sought to move
>> beyond corporations to supranational scientism. So sciencey specters
>> such as global warming and covid can be controlled by a scientific
>> autocracy along the lines of these guys:
>>
>>     <https://vimeo.com/1004265903>
>>
>> Oprah's a disciple of scientism:
>>
>>     "And it was miraculous to me that before you can practically
>>     finish the requests, the answer has come back to you,"
>>
>>     ...
>>
>>     "I think we should be disciplined and we should honor it and
>>     have a reverence for what is to come and respect, because I
>>     think it's going to change in ways that are unimaginable for
>>     the good."
>>
>> Far sighted Bacon knew it would take centuries for his vision to come
>> true. Should Trump singlehandedly reverse centuries of sociological
>> ratcheting it'd be enough to make Bacon "sing the blues" as they say.
>> Only the blues didn't exist back in Bacon's day - ergo "Flow My Tears."
>>
>
> Thank you for that long explanation. Was the reader supposed to
> immediately realise all that based on your cryptic comment:
>
> "ObSF: "Flow my Tears" the Francis "Shakespeare" Bacon said."?
>
> As this is an SF group, I interpreted your reference as to Dick's "Flow
> my Tears the Policeman Said, hence Constable Bacon.
>
>>> Flow, my tears, fall from your springs,
>>> Exiled for ever, let me mourn
>>> Where night's black bird her sad infamy sings,
>>> There let me live forlorn.
>>> Unknown. (Perhaps, Constable Bacon.)
>
> But Dick's tale was of a household name 'exiled' to an alternate reality
> where he was unknown and that has no relevance to the Atlantic cartoon
> cover. (Unless my memory is at fault.)

Despite your earlier misgivings in this thread about only understanding
really twisted PK Dick for only a short time you did an excellent job
of summarizing his story!

It's unintuitive how Constable Bacon jumps out at you at my mention of
Francis "Shakespeare" Bacon. Do you remember your followup to my
"Hidden Life is Best" post?

<https://rec.arts.sf.written.narkive.com/HmUD6mC6/what-i-m-listening-to#post3>

Most of my long explanation above has been repeatedly posted in bits
and pieces since Spring. Oprah's discipleship is new.

Danke,

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