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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don <g@crcomp.net> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Whoops! The Atlantic Makes Trump Look EPIC In Cover Intended as a Smear Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:38:08 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <20240920a@crcomp.net> References: <20240913a@crcomp.net> <92767bb42bc741f813f2a5a131e0ce5e@www.novabbs.com> <vcd5e0$3ognu$3@dont-email.me> <8b0e72a9-cf0c-dd8f-0b07-cdd1136854f3@example.net> <vcfkj6$7u9m$2@dont-email.me> <vcg9ll$efij$1@dont-email.me> <cda86ada-6f86-505d-8039-7fbedcf5ac15@example.net> <pgioejtelvr7chge2n12hgreh4874g6pkq@4ax.com> <3ac1ef7d-adbd-7dba-8d3e-04959f5f4c7a@example.net> <vcj03s$uka9$2@dont-email.me> <36f3431e-26fa-237c-9bd2-65aab4ead6ab@example.net> <xJfHO.23139$5837.16395@fx35.iad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8stipulation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 18:38:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f0a2d0dae649bf88222fb2a7587bb03e"; logging-data="1252027"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18SmNCbCR76vFdYMBRnDLFv" Cancel-Lock: sha1:2jHmJuXf9B50YXoTjV7dQY3UoSk= Bytes: 3930 Scott Lurndal wrote: > D writes: >> >>> You quoted an article that contradicts your basic premise that human >>> activities do not cause any Global Warming. >>> I will recommend to the committee that, although D for usually stands >>> for Deaf or Dumb, you shall be known as D for Dunce, to wear a pointy >>> cap and sit in a corner away from your keyboard. >>> >> >>Nope, read again. Carefully. > > Actually, he stated your position accurately. You say a bunch of shit, > but you never point to any actual data or research that supports your > position. > > Perhaps you should read this chapter before continuing your anonymous > trolling. > > https://escholarship.org/uc/item/9js5291m#section.9.1 Thank you for sharing, Scott. Such scholarship seems more appetizing to me these days than SF. The paper segues into rhetoric for its conclusion. It makes me curious as to its author's intentions. The author's alliteration approximately affines with my own addiction to the approach. We also see eye-to-eye with putting science into its place: I would recommend that we relax rigorous rigidity and put more stock in operationally productive stories: stories that move something good. Who cares if science can't validate the stories? Science has its limits, dude. Let's not get paralyzed by pedantry. The good stuff awaits, if we can let go of the shiny trinket in the "monkey trap" (I cringe to use the speciesist term). <https://www.resilience.org/stories/2023-12-01/putting-science-in-its-place/> His next commentary nails it: Science is a narrow tool: powerful and tenacious like a pit bull, but having no intrinsic wisdom or context. It concerns itself with what we can do, not what we should do. <https://www.resilience.org/stories/2023-12-06/confessions-of-a-disillusioned-scientist/> The trouble is there's always a Francis "Shakespeare" Bacon acolyte waiting in the wings to exploit science for the sake of scientism. And thereby cement concealed supranational dynasties further into place at the pinnacle of power. Allow me to leave readers with a thought currently cogitating in my mind. Politics is downstream from Science downstream from Culture. A chain recognized by royalist realist Bacon, who exploited it. Danke, -- Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. https://crcomp.net/reviews.php telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. Walk humbly with thy God. tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' Make 1984 fiction again.