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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN] Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 11:09:33 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 12 Message-ID: <20240930110933.00002ec1@gmail.com> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <vcuib9$37rge$5@dont-email.me> <vcvuhh$3hroa$2@dont-email.me> <llhieuF8ej2U2@mid.individual.net> <20240925083451.00003205@gmail.com> <Pascal-20240925164718@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <mdd4j63pmo1.fsf_-_@panix5.panix.com> <oJ-cnQSrLZDYdGX7nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdatb6$1l4ch$8@dont-email.me> <vdauah$1lq1u$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:09:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="32a37bac0a08e2ecfa3e3c65131391e5"; logging-data="2465208"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19aUHDVMv/MINXJjm0bJFsZyJ7STOCqeM0=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:an8DT33reYKz7bdLF+rneJweA5Q= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 1991 On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 07:06:57 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > But C++ isn=E2=80=99t really OO. It=E2=80=99s a kind of frankenmix of som= e OO-like=20 > features in with a bunch of other random things. This bears repeating. As someone whose initial exposure to OOP concepts was via C++ (and then Java,) I spent *years* never understanding what the appeal was. Wasn't until I encountered Smalltalk, way on down the line, that I finally *got* it.