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From: John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: TeX and Pascal [was Re: The joy of FORTRAN]
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:59:04 -0700
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 21:51:13 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> C++ gave OO a bad name. I think Java was trying to make up for it,
> but it introduced its own gratuitous complexities ...

Java's cleaner overall, but still has its weirdnesses (why on earth is
there an int primitive type and an Integer class!?) and the standard
library is positively Byzantine...