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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: Re: The "Good" Old Days - Complete Specs for DX-10 Operating System Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:15:02 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <20241002091502.00004cde@gmail.com> References: <Sp-dnfn-SI4ibmH7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2024 18:15:06 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="54277be2e80a74f6361db4182f2c954a"; logging-data="3431927"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+8H5gDLkAwGtooltbKYfb+7uMb2Q1dp2g=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:a/hhi9WNmSEQk6bGVCi6rCqwlDs= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2700 On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:18:23 -0400 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote: > The 990 series used the TMS-9900 chip and near variants. This was an > odd chip - kept the CPU registers out in ordinary RAM and could > switch quickly between different sets of registers. At that time, the > external RAM and CPU kinda ran at the same speed so little was lost > putting the registers in RAM. > > I remember fooling with this chip on a TI-99/4a home computer (which, > tragically, horribly under-used the neat new 16-bit CPU). There were > ASM commands for dealing with the register, 'context', shifting. By > that means many users with their own space could be implemented > directly with the hardware. I've always found the 9900 concept interesting, although its core assumption about memory speed doesn't really hold up today; much of the architecture was eventually reincarnated in TI's MSP430 series micro- controllers, but they ditched the memory-resident register file. But for the time, context-switching certainly didn't get any faster than that; only three actual registers to save, but you still got a comfortably PDP-11ish environment from the programmer's perspective. But yes, it's astonishing just how bad the TI-99 design was; a cascade of bad decisions that turned what could've been a real contender in the home-computer wars into an absolute joke. One of my oneathesedays projects that I've toyed with for years (though never made any headway on) is to roll up a homebrew system that does right by the concept... > How it is now AIN'T how it always was. And may it never be forgotten ;)