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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: is Vax addressing sane today Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:35:40 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <20241006173540.00001692@yahoo.com> References: <vdg3d1$2kdqr$1@dont-email.me> <memo.20241001101211.19028o@jgd.cix.co.uk> <20241001123426.000066c1@yahoo.com> <2024Oct1.182625@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vdknel$3e4pf$9@dont-email.me> <2024Oct3.085754@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vdne1a$3uaeh$4@dont-email.me> <m1rufjhpi09m9adedt87nrcdfmij1i8pvb@4ax.com> <2024Oct4.090534@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vdsnk4$ukl1$6@dont-email.me> <2024Oct6.104055@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241006140456.00004d01@yahoo.com> <2024Oct6.160359@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 16:35:09 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="18ac7e79562038ddb85a7a321c10035e"; logging-data="1323228"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+QpiICoJezX/zMRD2AHyaYLUdNOBH2GUo=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:VIn1CMIjw/L/0TEjGzHVBkfB/OU= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2416 On Sun, 06 Oct 2024 14:03:59 GMT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote: > Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes: > >On Sun, 06 Oct 2024 08:40:55 GMT > >anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote: > > > >> > >> AMD are easily provable culprits in this scam: They call their > >> micro-ops "ROPs", for RISC ops. > >> > > > >Wasn't the term invented by Nexgen for Nx586 and later adapted by AMD > >after they scrapped their home brewed core in favor of Nexgen's core > >that later became know as AMD K6? > > Easily possible. AMD may not have been the original culprit, but they > continued this terminology, and therefore are just as guilty. > > - anton To their defense, AMD's use of the term ROP didn't last for long. K8 manuals use the better term micro-ops. I don't have K7 manual to look, but it seems to me that it uses the same terminology as K8.