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From: Don <g@crcomp.net>
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Subject: Re: After a year of extermination, Palestine is still alive
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 17:39:00 -0000 (UTC)
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Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Bobbie Sellers writes:
>> NefeshBarYochai wrote:
>>>> By Qassam Muaddi  October 9, 2024
>>>>
>>>> In response to the attack that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis
>>>
>>> Well, one must ask: why did Hamas begin the war?
>>>
>>
>>       Because of the Occupation of Palestinian land by the
>>Occupiers.  At least that is what they say. I think that may
>>not be the whole truth. I think both sides of this really
>>monstrous show of murder and destruction suffer from the
>>need for revenge.
>
> A fellow named Balfour in 1917 proposed a homeland
> for the Jews in what became the british palestine mandate.  Mainly
> to get them out of europe; there was much prejudice in
> the 17th, 18th, 19th, and even early 20th centuries both
> in the States and in Europe.   Balfour at least
> proposed a fully independent two-state solution.
>
>      His Majesty's Government view with favour the
>      establishment in Palestine of a national home
>      for the Jewish people, and will use their best
>      endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this
>      object, it being clearly understood that nothing
>      shall be done which may prejudice the civil and
>      religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities
>      in Palestine, or the rights and political status
>      enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
>
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
>
>
> After WWII, the fledgling UN ran with Balfours idea;
> and the zionists initiated a terror campaign in palestine
> (e.g. the King David Hotel bombing).   A portion of
> palestine was designated as "Israel" and the former
> occupants were forcibly relocated from their ancestral
> lands.
>
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine
>
> Consequently, they fought back.   Several times, but
> Israel with the aid of the west took control of _more_
> land (the West Bank, the Golan Heights, etc) further
> displacing the existing residents.
>
> I suspect that anyone evicted anywhere in the world
> from their ancestral lands would attempt to fight
> to regain them, whether it is in the middle east, the steppes
> of Russia, Texas or central europe.
>
> Given the military advantages for the Israelis, primarily
> due to western support, asymmetric warfare is inevitable;
> it is always just a matter of time until the next explosion.
>
> Framing it as a religious issue is useful to ensure
> support for Israel, particularly in the christian
> west, but it really has little to do with religion.
>
> A legitimate two-state solution, with the west bank
> settlements under palestinian political control would
> likely be the minimum required to reduce the regional
> flammability, along with full self-determination in
> Gaza.  I really don't see it happening, particularly
> with the nationalists in charge on both sides.

Does London empire building by any other name misdirect as much? It
somewhat suprised me to see the State subvert storied Master of the
Universe Rothschild in the passage below.

    Prime Minister Netanyahu spoke historically. He spoke with
    feeling, context and emotion that came from the heart.
    "There is no exaggeration," Patterson was the "commander of
    the first Jewish fighting force in nearly two millennia.
    And as such, he can be called the godfather of the Israeli
    army."

    ...

    John Henry Patterson was born November 19, 1867 in Forgney,
    Ireland, a small town known because it was the birthplace
    of poet Oliver Goldsmith. Patterson's father was a Protestant,
    his mother a Roman Catholic. Patterson was raised as a
    Protestant. He did not have any deep religious convictions.

    ...

    Because of Patterson, Amery was a strong supporter of the
    Jewish Legion and Zionism but for different reasons. Amery's
    primary motivation was to use the Jews to help Britain wrest
    control of Palestine from the Turks for Britain.

    ...

    With the approval of the Jewish Legion, opposition by the
    assimilationist British Jewish establishment swung into
    high gear. Lionel de Rothschild and Lord Swarthling joined
    forces to pressure Derby to cancel the Legion.

<http://www.jewish-american-society-for-historic-preservation.org/images/Patterson_-_JASHP-1.pdf>

Danke,

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