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On 19 Oct 2024 17:18:57 GMT, Thomas Alexandre <none@no.invalid> wrote:
>Le Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:45:32 +0000, Retro Guy a écrit :
>> Followup-To is required for more than 2 groups in fr.*
>
>Then how did your server allow the following message without any Follow-
>up ?
>
>From: Père Sonnes <pere.sonnes@meta-science.fr>
>Newsgroups: fr.sci.zetetique,fr.soc.religion,fr.sci.philo
>Message-ID: <e7bd06e52d3ada15df6f96d160783c4e8671f5a9@i2pn2.org>
>
>It's not the only one.
>
>> I also see earlier in this thread, "he crossposted to 8 forums", which
>> can not be done on i2pn2 so it must have been a different server. i2pn2
>> limits posting to a max of 6 groups.
>
>As far as I remember, yes it was from a different server (and "Père Sonnes" 
>was banned from it).
>
>> In addition to the above, i2pn2 limits number of posts per hour for all
>> users, and for my web interfaces that feed through i2pn2, the limit is
>> even more restricted.
>
>That's great - and I really mean it.
>
>> These are all attempts to limit the amount of abuse that can happen on
>> my servers, and so far it seems to work well. As I find holes in the
>> filtering, I'll try to fix it. But I will not restrict ideas and
>> opinions. I have users that post things I strongly disagree with, but I
>> don't not prohibit them from expressing these views.
>
>It's not a matter of ideas or opinions.
>First it's a matter of technical abuse on the fr hierarchy. You cleary 
>answered that your server forbid xpost to 2+ groups without fu2 (as you 
>stated above). I guess the MID I mentioned was before you enforce 
>filtering.
>Second, and this one is tricky, there are ground rules on fr. Xposting to 
>fr.soc.politique (where I can assure you that free speech is totaly alive) 
>is considered as an abuse. Posting off topic *on a regular basis* is also 
>considered an abuse. It's NOT a matter of opinion, it's just a matter of 
>being on topic.
>Nobody can claim that those ground rules are free speech related. I'm 
>perfectly aware that Europe and US have very different points of view on 
>this but the fact is : you can express any idea on any group on fr *as long 
>as you are on topic*.
>And the regulations in *my* country (France - that forbid me, by law, to 
>express a few ideas) are **irrelevant** for this matter.

probably correct since this article is dated 5 Aug 2024 (75 days ago),
but its content is the same old infantile troll-bait that really does
not warrant complaints from anyone, especially those unwilling to use
filters in their favorite newsreader (e.g. 40tude dialog, tbird, etc.)
to simply demote cross-posted articles and ignore trollish subthreads

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>From: =?UTF-8?B?UMOocmUgU29ubmVz?= <pere.sonnes@meta-science.fr>
>Newsgroups: fr.sci.zetetique,fr.soc.religion,fr.sci.philo
>Subject: Re: Comment pourrions nous prouver l'existence de Dieu ?
>Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 18:16:50 -0000 (UTC)
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>Le lundi 29 juillet 2024 à 17:39 , Père Sonnes, S'est exprimé : 
>> Comment pourrions nous prouver l'existence de Dieu ?
>> Quelle type de preuves ?
>> -- 
>
>Comment a commencé la vie ?
>Référentiel : Diceware
>•69    début
>Signe du Cancer(69)
>Un organe si il n’était pas au service du corps ce serait un Cancer
>La vie à évolué selon des mutation, un cancer est une mutation
>Autre code intéressant :
>Référentiel : Diceware
>•2009  déesse
>Depuis des années et des années que je dit que 2009 ou 209 est le code du
>Paradis Originelle./
>Cela correspond au carte 20 et 9 du Jeu Lenormand
>09 - Bouquet
><https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/68p404wnlzq0q296ek1nl/09-Bouquet.jpeg?rlkey=tscnnhj53acxrgth9er94inug&dl=0>
>20 - Jardin
><https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qpfrzcwf39pm83cfe8iut/20-Jardin.jpeg?rlkey=za3nvfcx5lqu5zoe6tbjvgrud&dl=0>
>Donc : •2009  déesse
>C’est pour cela que j’écris : Paradis Originelle et non Originel
>C’est parce que le Paradis Originelle est une Fille, et là Diceware dit
>que c’est une Déesse, j’en doute pas un instant.
>Un jour j’ai dit : Alexandra(Râ) est mon Paradis
>Il m’a été répondu : Non, c’est le Paradis
>-- 
>  \ /    Croire c'est le contraire de savoir,
>-- o --  si j'y crois, je ne sais pas,
>  / \    si je sais, pas la peine d'y croire.
>--> Je crois pas, car je sais que c'est faux malgré tout...
>
>"Les grands esprits discutent des idées ; les esprits moyens discutent
>des événements ; les petits esprits discutent des gens." (Eleanor Roosevelt)
>Ma Fiche Mon Site Voyance (MSV) : <https://miniurl.be/r-5lsx>
>Dossier DropBox pour déposer des documents : <https://miniurl.be/r-5lsv>
>
[end quote]

chronic complaints about trolling -- without suggesting that subscribers
use their newsreader filters accordingly -- is "trolling for billygoats";

the world-famous french philosopher voltaire was french . . . wasn't he?