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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTH (not) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:04:37 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: <20241023080437.00003148@gmail.com> References: <vdnvk0$49ai$2@dont-email.me> <lm9kg6Ft2vgU2@mid.individual.net> <vdpi96$bgk6$7@dont-email.me> <lmb9k2F64inU8@mid.individual.net> <vdqlcs$lo51$1@dont-email.me> <TKqcnfnts-lvnJ_6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <pRDMO.80813$7OO5.26774@fx43.iad> <lmh1avF2k8fU1@mid.individual.net> <MZScnWkZT7T_Hon6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vf27ib$9pgg$1@dont-email.me> <ErcRO.309187$v8v2.137739@fx18.iad> <vf3t70$itru$9@dont-email.me> <lnlparFlf82U5@mid.individual.net> <vf4hrt$pqrl$3@dont-email.me> <lnmbutFodq5U1@mid.individual.net> <vf5442$sjo3$1@dont-email.me> <20241021075543.00000494@gmail.com> <vf6f0q$13ctc$2@dont-email.me> <20241021151652.00005675@gmail.com> <vf6n47$14l9a$3@dont-email.me> <lno9vqF368kU2@mid.individual.net> <vf6u3q$15nlq$3@dont-email.me> <20241022095931.00001d38@gmail.com> <vf93a5$1l20u$6@dont-email.me> <299011000.751331039.035254.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vf9d06$1mkkd$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2024 17:04:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="67eccc9e3c35e1829f415f69a1042a3b"; logging-data="2155076"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/3WR0Vk/tJ+arw6hIarUepQzorTPL6ez4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:OsqzWv2suAW1khJf2egZ8THnVhQ= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2836 On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 23:37:43 -0000 (UTC) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > Presumably there is some threshold below which it simply isn=E2=80=99t wo= rth=20 > trying to save a bit of RAM. What is it nowadays: as much as 1MiB? > Higher? Lower? No doubt there is, but where exactly is the question, and the answer probably varies depending on the scope of the project. But, just for the sake of argument, you could compare between the STM32G0B1KET6N (listed on Mouser for $2.95/unit at scale) and the M0G3505QRHBRQ1 ($1.44 at the same breakpoint) - both ARM Cortex M0+ with a handful of misc. functionality, but the one has 512 KB Flash/144 KB RAM, and the other only 32 KB/16 KB. $1.50 or so is pretty trivial to you & me, sure - but times however many thousands/millions of units in a commercial context, it adds up to a considerably bigger deal.