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On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 19:49:23 +0200, morena <morena@morena.rip> wrote:
>On 10/24/24 6:54 PM, D wrote:
>> newsgrouper search returned "article not found". . .
>
>Newsgrouper's source is Eternal September which currently does not have 
>older articles due to some technical issues.
>So currently I assume you will not find anything older there.

p.s.

that oldest message-id <bdqnl9.2ag.1@ID-66775.user.dfncis.de> copied
from the "blueworld" server (dated 2003/07/01, twenty-one years ago)
was found in https://newsgrouper.org.uk/news.software.readers/search
by searching for the article subject "let's start a xananews thread":

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>From: Allan Girvan <allangirvan@yahoo.com>
>Newsgroups: news.software.readers
>Subject: Re: Let's Start a XanaNews Thread
>Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 01:20:42 +0100
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>
>On 01 Jul 2003, Terry wrote:
>
>> Who's using it and what are the good and bad points? I've been
>> playing with it this evening and am fairly impressed at first
>> sight. I've not investigated its multi server binary functionality
>> yet...
>
>Nor me!
>
>I'm a committed Xnews user but I'm aware that Luu has pretty much
>given up on Xnews development.
>
>I took a look at Dialog and was impressed but there was something
>about it I just didn't like (I have no idea what it was - it just
>didn't *feel* right).
>
>Xananews, on the other hand, looks and feels like a winner. I'm
>sticking with Xnews for the time being but I think that Xananews may
>well become my newsreader of choice. (I'll not commit myself until it
>lets me set up separate folders to allow me to gather various
>subscribed newsgroups under generic headings - one of the things that
>Xnews does really well.)
>
>Other than that, I have no criticisms - an excellent program.
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>Allan.
>-- 
>Please use the "Reply To" address for emails
>
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it seems certain that google isn't about to let go of their dejanews
cash cow any time soon, so this type of web interface "piggybacking"
on popular open newsservers could become more of a trend, as perhaps
more newsservers and similar "web2news" sites may share the increase
in user demand for such convenience in the wake of google's farewell

smartphone users, and less tech-savvy, are especially hamstrung from
usenet participation . . . the novabbs "rocksolid light" works great 
but is limited to select newsgroups; whereas these major newsservers
include tens of thousands of newsgroups, this is sure to get noticed