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Subject: Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff,
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 17:18:53 -0300, Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
>Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:
>> On 09.11.2024 um 09:50 Uhr Wolfgang Agnes wrote:
>>> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:
>>> > On 09.11.2024 um 09:13 Uhr Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> >>  "The Mozilla Foundation is reorganizing teams to increase agility 
>>> >>  and impact as we accelerate our work to ensure a more open and 
>>> >>  equitable technical future for us all.  
>>> >
>>> > Maybe they should drop all the agile stuff.  
>>> 
>>> Lol---you are a non-believer!  What's wrong with the agile stuff?
>>
>> It is mostly management BS and buzzwords, I haven't seen a real outcome
>> of such ideas yet.
>
>Same here.  I view the situation as a major sign of failure.  It seems
>the whole world is on the same boat, though.  I don't know of any
>company that has not bought into all this nonsense---they may exist (and
>I hope they do), but surely I don't know the routine of every company
>out there.  ``Software engineering'' in the universities are also going
>in the same direction.  In fact, one thing I observe in the universities
>is that the academics in ``software engineering'' are actually the
>manager-types who are not (at the same time) programmers, which is a
>terrible sign.  I hope I'm not offending anyone, but it's really how I
>think.
>If something is very difficult and people find it hard to accept that it
>is difficult, then they make these programs of management and education
>thinking that they can make progress little by little.  It's a certain
>Religion of Progress or something like that.
>But not everything can be made right---little by little---simply because
>one wants it.  To advance things, sometimes you really need to have the
>right insight.  There are hard things to do in this life.
>We also live a certain overconfidence in science.  There are very few
>scientists doing relevant work, but there's a widespread belief that
>science (and technology) will always solve everything---it's always just
>a matter of time; someone will figure it out.  Ask people and you will
>see---almost nobody understands anything about quantum computing or
>artificial intelligence, but nearly everyone thinks that it's a matter
>of a short time and all the quantum computing will be here for the next
>revolution.  And I need say nothing about artificial intelligence
>because everyone is well-aware about the all the hype.
>On the other hand, though, I totally understand the fears: academics are
>fearful of not having anything to say and managers either invent
>something whatever or they have a nervous breakdown out of fear of
>losing their jobs.  And some really do.  They have a deep sense of
>incapacity: it seems they never find a way to put their lives to good
>use.  It's a very sorry situation.

if academia were one big happy family always in agreement with everything,
then science cannot fail but to always improve everyone's lives and after-
life in passing from this earthly domain...so it's a win-win for everyone;
everyone should be agile and fit into the program...join the winning team!