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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20241109.222404.69cd2348@mixmin.net> Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 22:24:04 +0000 References: <672e9b2c@news.ausics.net> <vgn0mm$3koe3$1@dont-email.me> <874j4gwoy6.fsf@jemoni.to> <20241109200523.02f12286@ryz.dorfdsl.de> <871pzktb2q.fsf@jemoni.to> Subject: Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division From: D <noreply@mixmin.net> Newsgroups: comp.misc Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.in-chemnitz.de!news2.arglkargh.de!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128 Bytes: 3934 Lines: 53 On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 17:18:53 -0300, Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote: >Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes: >> On 09.11.2024 um 09:50 Uhr Wolfgang Agnes wrote: >>> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes: >>> > On 09.11.2024 um 09:13 Uhr Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>> >> "The Mozilla Foundation is reorganizing teams to increase agility >>> >> and impact as we accelerate our work to ensure a more open and >>> >> equitable technical future for us all. >>> > >>> > Maybe they should drop all the agile stuff. >>> >>> Lol---you are a non-believer! What's wrong with the agile stuff? >> >> It is mostly management BS and buzzwords, I haven't seen a real outcome >> of such ideas yet. > >Same here. I view the situation as a major sign of failure. It seems >the whole world is on the same boat, though. I don't know of any >company that has not bought into all this nonsense---they may exist (and >I hope they do), but surely I don't know the routine of every company >out there. ``Software engineering'' in the universities are also going >in the same direction. In fact, one thing I observe in the universities >is that the academics in ``software engineering'' are actually the >manager-types who are not (at the same time) programmers, which is a >terrible sign. I hope I'm not offending anyone, but it's really how I >think. >If something is very difficult and people find it hard to accept that it >is difficult, then they make these programs of management and education >thinking that they can make progress little by little. It's a certain >Religion of Progress or something like that. >But not everything can be made right---little by little---simply because >one wants it. To advance things, sometimes you really need to have the >right insight. There are hard things to do in this life. >We also live a certain overconfidence in science. There are very few >scientists doing relevant work, but there's a widespread belief that >science (and technology) will always solve everything---it's always just >a matter of time; someone will figure it out. Ask people and you will >see---almost nobody understands anything about quantum computing or >artificial intelligence, but nearly everyone thinks that it's a matter >of a short time and all the quantum computing will be here for the next >revolution. And I need say nothing about artificial intelligence >because everyone is well-aware about the all the hype. >On the other hand, though, I totally understand the fears: academics are >fearful of not having anything to say and managers either invent >something whatever or they have a nervous breakdown out of fear of >losing their jobs. And some really do. They have a deep sense of >incapacity: it seems they never find a way to put their lives to good >use. It's a very sorry situation. if academia were one big happy family always in agreement with everything, then science cannot fail but to always improve everyone's lives and after- life in passing from this earthly domain...so it's a win-win for everyone; everyone should be agile and fit into the program...join the winning team!