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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: In-Memory Computing Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 20:09:17 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <20241118200917.000019e3@yahoo.com> References: <vh1h29$22vap$1@dont-email.me> <vh6ekr$380m5$1@dont-email.me> <0a5d4ebe3ded86050f31de809ecb4b26@www.novabbs.org> <vhdtj2$s95e$2@dont-email.me> <vhfm9h$ede$1@gal.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 19:08:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e6e4d64af00afc30377e7d1061777326"; logging-data="1440004"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18ZmOYwBQ2FaMEsDNLAHohjeMorEpqporc=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:BrCSU4VCPRK1XoWLzbZxzUcSwto= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2707 On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 15:25:37 -0000 (UTC) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > According to Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>: > >On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:32:29 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > > > >> ... doing arithmetic in ferrite cores has been around for a very > >> long time, indeed. > > > >Memristors are a new kind of electronic component, where the > >resistance is proportional to the integral of applied voltage over > >time. > > This is a rather capacious version of "new" since memristors were > invented in 1971. > > My impression is that they are real, they work, but they don't work > well enough to replace conventional components. > > There is a very long article about them in Wikipedia. My impression from Wikipedia article is different. Memristors are not real. I.e. there are no physical devices that approximate mathematical abstraction proposed in 1971. There are some devices taht look like that, but only before researcher starts to pay attention to details. After researcher starts to pays attention to details it typically turns out that device resistance does not really depend on charge, but on something else that happens to correlate with charge on bigger or smaller parts of characteristic curves. What does exist and does work and does not work well enough relatively to conventional tech are various variants of ReRAM. But memory elements of those various ReRAMs are *not* memristors. That applies as much to HP's not quite working "memristor" ReRAM as to all others ReRAMs in existence including those that work relatively better.