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From: Don <g@crcomp.net>
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Ted Nolan wrote:
> William Hyde wrote:
>>Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> William Hyde wrote:
<snip>
>>>> I'm still going to run with the George III thing as soon as I can find
>>>> a likely victim.
>>>
>>> Seeing as George III was born in 1738 and George Washington was born in
>>> 1732, that did not happen.
>>
>>So says fake history.
>
> "There is the leaky past, but it cannot leak out fast enough
> for safety," Barnaby had taken up his tale again. He always
> came as directly as possible to a point, but the point was
> often a tricky one. "The staggering corpus of past events,
> and of non-central or nonconsensus events, is diminished
> swiftly. More and more things that once happened are now
> made not to have happened. This is absolute necessity, I
> suppose, even though the flesh between the lines (it is, I
> guess, the supposedly expunged flesh) should scream from
> the agony of the compression.
>
> "Velikovsky was derided for writing that six hundred years
> must be subtracted from Egyptian history and from all ancient
> history. He shouldn't have been derided, but he did have
> it backwards. Indeed, six times six hundred years must be
> added to history again and again to approach the truth of
> the matter. It'd be dangerous to do it, though. It's crammed
> as tight as it will go now, and there's tremors all along
> the fault lines. As a matter of fact, several decades have
> been left out of quite recent United States history. They
> should be put back in for they're interesting, and we
> ourselves lived through parts of them--if it were safe to
> do so."
>
> "How about the count of the years and their present total?"
> Harry O'Donovan asked. "Are they right or are they not? Is
> this really the year that it says it is on that calendar
> on the wall? And, if it is, doesn't that make nonsense about
> leaving out recent decades?"
>
> "The count of the years is true, in that it is one aspect
> of the truth," Barnaby said a little bit fumblingly. "But
> there are other aspects. They call into question the whole
> nature of simultaneity."
>
> "What doesn't?" Harry O'Donovan said.
>
> "There are taboos in mathematics," Barnaby tried to explain.
> "The idea of the involuted number series is taboo, and yet
> we live in a time that is counted by such a series. And
> when time is fleshed, when it puts on History for its
> clothes, it follows even more the involuted series in which
> there are very, very many numbers between one and ten."
>
> "Just what do you have in mind, Barney?" Cris Benedetti asked him.
>
> "I have never discovered any historical event happening for
> the first time," Barnaby said. "Either life imitates anecdote,
> or very much more has happened than the bursting records
> are allowed to show as happening. As far back as one can
> track it, there is history: and I do not mean prehistory.
> I doubt if there was ever such a time as prehistory. I doubt
> that there was ever an uncivilized man. I also doubt that
> there was ever any manlike creature who was not full man,
> however unconventional the suit of hide that he wore.
>
> "But when you try to compress a hundred thousand years of
> history into six thousand years, something has to give.
> When you try to compress a million years, it becomes
> dangerous. An involuted number series, particularly when
> applied to the spate of years, becomes a tightly coiled
> spring of primordial spring-steel. When it recoils, look
> out! There comes the revenge of things left out.
>
> "Were there eight kings of the name of Henry in England,
> or were there eighty? Never mind: someday it will be recorded
> that there was only one, and the attributes of all of them
> will be combined into his compressed and consensus story.
Is George destined to become his own grandpa?
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3CvRC4fAmk>
I'm My Own Grandpa: A Canonical Analysis
"I'm My Own Grandpa," for those few who may not know, was a
signature song for country comedy artists (and Grand Ole
Opry regulars) Lonzo & Oscar. It has also been recorded by
others, including Grandpa Jones, and it makes a memorable
appearance in the hilariously stupid movie, The Stupids
(which is also remarkably clean, one of the few such comedy
films).
The premise of the song is that an unusual pair of marriages
result in bizarre relational implications for the character
in the song, such that he is now his own grandpa (as you
might suppose from the title).
The bizarre relationships that result from this pair of
marriages are extensive, and now someone has now gone and
done a hypertext version of the song that allows you to keep
track of how all the relationships work, complete with diagrams.
With this in mind (and linking the hypertext version), a
reader writes:
Would the following be considered licit... from the [Catholic]
Church's perspective? ...
<https://jimmyakin.com/2006/09/im_my_own_grand.html>
Danke,
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