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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: politics Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 12:32:09 +0000 Organization: Dis Lines: 77 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <20241211123209.d4f7fa39336ec0e264150222@127.0.0.1> References: <ff8316a0-d409-4154-ba53-dd736d5c28e9@gmail.com> <9m9kjjh7rkfuc49cjhmrh3hffmo5l1cnti@4ax.com> <559c09f8-1b28-46f1-a481-c80fcc9aaae7@gmail.com> <1b59lj1lr70dp7if5pq5e8bdv1jip8lvpj@4ax.com> <zV6dncdi7ekqycv6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <mrhdljdprvmlua1ttrnefbihuodbo4n3sr@4ax.com> <f98eljlsncefo6rb2bdvospr2bun75kqbm@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="51552"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:CtlROLZdxVCd3b2U4/M7Ahp6/ko= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 87FD6229782; Wed, 11 Dec 2024 07:32:34 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 495CC229765 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Wed, 11 Dec 2024 07:32:32 -0500 (EST) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from <news@eternal-september.org>) id 1tLLtF-00000000Lix-0W92; Wed, 11 Dec 2024 13:32:29 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 894D25F8F6 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Wed, 11 Dec 2024 12:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/894D25F8F6; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=127.0.0.1 id 25B22DC01A9; Wed, 11 Dec 2024 13:32:25 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 13:32:24 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+2vEf2sY695Ga8LBlRAcDxPCOnMpvIogptwK1xjxwwhA== X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32) tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 5799 On Mon, 09 Dec 2024 12:02:23 -0500 jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 09 Dec 2024 10:34:40 +0000, Martin Harran > <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Mon, 09 Dec 2024 02:23:51 +0000, *Hemidactylus* > ><ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote: > > > >>Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 10:05:40 -0800, erik simpson > >>> <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 11/17/24 9:25 AM, Martin Harran wrote: > >>>>> On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:13:43 -0800, erik simpson > >>>>> <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I'd like to propose a moratorium on political posts, as they are > >>>>>> off-topic. I see general agreement on the unsatisfactory state of > >>>>>> affairs here in the US, but for now there's little anybody can do about it. > >>>>> > >>>>> You'd prefer it to be essentially a Ron O blog? > >>>>> > >>>>> That's what it's pretty well been this last while :( > >>>>> > >>>> Ron's been standing clear of electoral politics. In fact, if he's the > >>>> most prolific poster, good for him. > >>> > >>> Sorry, I meant to reply to this but it slipped by me. > >>> > >>> Just to be clear, I have no problem at all with Ron's posting on the > >>> Dairy Flu - on the contrary, that is the sort of stuff that he excels > >>> at and I find his contributions highly valuable even if focused mostly > >>> on the USA as there will be an inevitable knock-on this side of the > >>> Atlantic. > >>> > >>> My point was that recently, he has really been the only poster here … > >>> unless you want to consider JTEM as a useful poster! > >>> > >>Ron scares the shit out of me on a regular basis and for that I thank him. > >> > >>I don’t know if we’ve been able to rebound from the welcome demise of GG. > >> > >>I do miss more frequent input from Lawyer Daggett and Burkhard. I think > >>they had both used novaBBS as an alternative means. > >> > >>Ron Dean has returned. That’s gotta be better than JTEM, right? > > > >So has MarkE. Coincidence? > > > >One way or another, hopefully they will generate a bit more activity > >than has been here since the end of GG. > > > You conflate smoke with substance. Both MarkE and RDean are likely to > provide the latest rounds of deja vu all over again, where they repost > the same old arguments without acknowledging the answers they were You are vindicated. Also Martin Harran is reviving some historical debate about how Galileo was treated. > given before. I suppose that's better than mindless trolls from J*** > enablers, but not by much. > Mindlessness is in the eye of the beholder. JTEM's "debating style" is quite off-putting. Looks like he has troubles and projects them on anyone responding. At least David Dalton is out to improve the world, in his own curious way. And I imagine I'm just seen as sniping from the sidelines. Not much new to see here, move along. US Electoral troubles are behind us; it's now all about the fallout (I hope not literally). </gloom> -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug