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From: Don <g@crcomp.net>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Murder in New York
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 17:33:47 -0000 (UTC)
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Paul S Person wrote:
> Cryptoengineer wrote:
>> Paul S Person wrote:
>>> quadibloc wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few days ago, I had read in the news that the CEO of a major health
>>>> insurer was gunned down. This was shocking; it seemed to mean that no
>>>> one
>>>> was safe from crime.
>>>> Then I came across the following information on a web site: that the
>>>> health care insurer of which he was the CEO had used an AI system to
>>>> process claims; this system rejected 90% of all claims, including many
>>>> valid ones.
>>>> Maybe this site is a leftist one, and this claim is not true, I don't
>>>> know for sure. But if it is true, my sympathy for this homicide victim
>>>> basically evaporated. After all, if someone's health insurer doesn't
>>>> pay out on valid claims... that person might not get health care. That
>>>> kills people. But the legal system wasn't in the process of prosecuting
>>>> him as aggressively as any other murderer.
>>>
>>> I saw the claim; I have no idea how true it is.
>>>
>>> You must keep in mind that the USA does not have a "medical system".
>>> It has a Medical Industry composed of various competing business
>>> enterprises.
>>>
>>> And the purpose of a business enterprise is to /make money/, not to
>>> /pay claims/.
>>
>> This 'corporatism' is something I'm less and less in love with every
>> year.
>>
>> No matter what their PR may tell you, the fiduciary duty of
>> the officers in every public corporations is the same: "Maximize
>> shareholder return on investment". NOT "Serve our customers". If
>> they fail to do so at every opportunity, they can be sued.
>>
>> Particularly when their customers are individuals, there is an
>> enormous disparity in agency and power, and corporations will
>> use their power to ride roughshod over people, and every year
>> it looks like they have fewer ethics and less of a conscience.
>>
>> I'd love to find a solution which rebalanced this.
>
> The Supreme Court provided a solution when they declared them to be
> persons like everybody else.
>
> The solution is simple: when a corporation breaks the law, the
> Chairman of the Board, the President (or whatever the title is in a
> given case), and the first five levels down from the top of Management
> are considered to be legally responsible.
>
> /They/ go to prison. /They/ get executed if appropriate. This should
> induce a certain amount of ... prudence ... in people in those
> positions. And effective supervision of those below them.
>
> If a more accurate assignment of responsibility can be made, then it
> should be. But the top dogs should only be held not responsible if the
> actual malefactors /deliberately and knowingly concealed/ what they
> were doing.
>
> If you want to tell me this isn't practical, my response it: it should
> be /tried/. If nothing else, the Supreme Court should be faced with
> either allowing it or reversing their prior decision and making
> corporations no longer legal persons.

For this particular case, Jury Nullification empowers individuals who
share Mangione's sentiments to retroactively sanction his behaviour.

Danke,

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