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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ? Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 08:11:04 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <20241218081104.00007add@gmail.com> References: <Sp-cnSz8UupYQaf6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <vhja4p$23f5e$3@dont-email.me> <lNycnZghasCXPtP6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <w0b7P.64695$oR74.19157@fx16.iad> <vjjljh$3unfq$1@dont-email.me> <vjk9nm$2chi$1@dont-email.me> <vjkae9$1uri$11@dont-email.me> <68b83l-jtd.ln1@ID-313840.user.individual.net> <vjt866$20222$3@dont-email.me> <KSGdnbSzt70r0__6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vjtkuq$25l55$1@dont-email.me> <wwvy10d5rbm.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vjukmc$2aoep$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 17:11:08 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2db07abe362f67b06a44632bfa900db0"; logging-data="2488284"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Wmu+WtJb8yVerFgOFQcEbrT0pB5kyTEM=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:dgB97xc099UDWEP0aF2iIbq39+0= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2811 On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 14:02:52 -0000 (UTC) Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: > >> The amount of data you can transfer over a pipe is not in any way=20 > >> limited by system memory size or any other system imposed limits. =20 > >=20 > > Quite. I=E2=80=99m not sure why this discussion has restarted but it was > > clear from last time round that some of the participants don=E2=80=99t = know > > what a pipe is, and aren=E2=80=99t particularly interested in finding o= ut. =20 >=20 > Yes, our local nymshift troll seems to clearly not know what a pipe > is, nor care to learn either. I *think* what he's meaning to say is this: while you can transfer any arbitrary amount of data *through* a pipe, there is an upper limit to how much you can have *in* a pipe at any one time; eventually, you hit either *A.* an OS-imposed limit on buffer size, at which point things start blocking as already discussed, or *B.* the upper bounds of system memory, at which point the system will either start swapping (in which case you lose any speed advantage) or blocking (as with limited buffer size.) That said, what probably shouldn't need saying here is that if you're filling up all available space in a pipe such that you're regularly hitting these limits, you're probably doing pipes wrong.