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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: transpiling to low level C Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 03:04:51 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: <20241222030451.00005565@yahoo.com> References: <vjlh19$8j4k$1@dont-email.me> <vjn9g5$n0vl$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <vjnhsq$oh1f$1@dont-email.me> <vjnq5s$pubt$1@dont-email.me> <vjpn29$17jub$1@dont-email.me> <86ikrdg6yq.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vk78it$77aa$1@dont-email.me> <20241222002032.0000104c@yahoo.com> <vk7lik$9iga$1@dont-email.me> <20241222021851.0000059f@yahoo.com> <vk7n4l$9okb$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 02:04:56 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="926dab9d4a3a2406bd5e1e36cf72f405"; logging-data="268969"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18aYyNAgLnXxqOimJdyXvsRNGm+IRngELs=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:d1zHwpoQYXofSqTkcnSrfFa/2fM= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.34; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 3982 On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 01:39:49 +0100 Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 22.12.2024 01:18, Michael S wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 01:13:07 +0100 > > Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 21.12.2024 23:20, Michael S wrote: > >>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 21:31:24 +0100 > >>> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> So your statement asks for some explanation at least. > >>> > >>> I would guess that Tim worked as CS professor for several dozens > >>> years. And it shows. > >> > >> Ranks and titles are, per se, no guarantee. I'm not impressed; I've > >> seen all sorts/qualities of professors. YMMV. > >> > >> If that is true (that he was one) I'm wondering why we observe so > >> often that he posts statements here and doesn't care to explain it. > >> At least the many _good_ professors I met in my life typically were > >> keen to explain their theses, statements, or knowledge (instead of > >> dragging that out of him). > > > > It seems, you didn't understand me. (Ogh, it is contagious ;-) > > I'm sorry, no. - I certainly took it literally - as I do (at first) > with most people and their statements (until I get to know better). > > If it was meant sarcastically or anything, I'd appreciate a smiley > or something like that. (It certainly wasn't obvious to me.) > > If it was meant serious and I completely missed the point - which > may also happen occasionally - I'd appreciate a pointer. > > Janis > Part of the answer is in your previous response. You wrote: "many _good_ professors I met in my life typically were keen to explain their theses, statements, or knowledge (instead of dragging that out of him)". You essentially admitted that not all good professors behave like that. There is more than one school of teaching. One school believes that students learn from explanations and exercises. Other school believes that students learn best when provided with bare basics and then asked to figure out the rest by themselves. There is also the third school that believes that student don't really learn anything before they try to explain it to somebody else. You make an impression of one that received basics of CS. Probably, 40 or so years ago, but still you have to know basic facts. Unlike me, for example. So, Tim expects that you will be able to utilizes his hints. And that it would lead to much better understanding on your part then if he feeds you by teaspoon. That is one part. Another part is that he is annoyed by your tone.