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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Short Vectors Versus Long Vectors Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 09:28:06 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien Lines: 19 Message-ID: <2024Apr24.112806@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> References: <v06vdb$17r2v$1@dont-email.me> <5451dcac941e1f569397a5cc7818f68f@www.novabbs.org> <hqmg2j1vbkf6suddfnsh3h3uhtkqqio4uk@4ax.com> <2024Apr24.081658@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v0aa0l$269hu$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 11:31:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="68f13f15e74c6cc1e6ed32f2711e82b5"; logging-data="2368321"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+cQlTEwajB4cIDPXSP93sF" Cancel-Lock: sha1:sb6iThjoeuKMZUWpcY6fn3AK1vY= X-newsreader: xrn 10.11 Bytes: 1891 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 06:16:58 GMT, Anton Ertl wrote: > >> For that kind of stuff you better use GPUs, which have memory systems >> with more bandwidth. > >But with more limited memory, which is typically not upgradeable. And yet, supercomputers these days often have lots of GPUs. The software crisis still is not yet there in supercomputing, so they manage to do with explicit moving of data between the high-bandwidth GPU memory and the lower-bandwidth bigger memory, just like in the days of the Cray-1 (or was it the CDC-6600?), which has a fast memory and a bigger slow memory. - anton -- 'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.' Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>