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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Computer architects leaving Intel... Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2024 07:16:43 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien Lines: 29 Message-ID: <2024Sep6.091643@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> References: <2024Aug30.161204@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vat5ap$jthk$2@dont-email.me> <vaunhb$vckc$1@dont-email.me> <vautmu$vr5r$1@dont-email.me> <2024Aug31.170347@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vavpnh$13tj0$2@dont-email.me> <vb2hir$1ju7q$1@dont-email.me> <8lcadjhnlcj5se1hrmo232viiccjk5alu4@4ax.com> <vb4amr$2rcbt$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep5.133102@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vbchiv$cde4$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep5.174939@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vbd2tt$e0ld$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2024 09:25:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2e85e44354343afe68fe387c30e9d02d"; logging-data="786256"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18/q4FFsik/LZybGtSRpUo2" Cancel-Lock: sha1:yO731gmSKDl1WrW6ZMbjRLVPjRk= X-newsreader: xrn 10.11 Bytes: 2546 Bernd Linsel <bl1-thispartdoesnotbelonghere@gmx.com> writes: >On 05.09.24 17:49, Anton Ertl wrote: >> >> Nobody said that gcc did anything wrong here. We were, however, >> surprised that -fno-reorder-blocks did not suppress the reordering; we >> reported this as bug, but were told that this option does something >> different from what it says. Anyway, we developed a workaround. And >> we also developed a workaround for the code duplication problem that >> showed up in gcc-7. >> > >Have you tried interspersing `asm volatile("")` statements? > >It is very often an effective means to prevent gcc from reordering code >from before and after the asm statement. We are using asm statements that result in no machine code for various purposes (including the workaround for the code duplication of gcc-7 ff.) We have not tried it for suppressing the basic block reordering, and I would not expect such a statement to suppress that, because asm volatile("") acts as a data-flow barrier, and basic-block reordering has nothing to do with data flow. - anton -- 'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.' Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>