Deutsch   English   Français   Italiano  
<20250103131404.4cdd218a26c336a706ec5854@127.0.0.1>

View for Bookmarking (what is this?)
Look up another Usenet article

Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail
From: "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Causal determinism and non-materialist atheism
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 13:14:04 +0000
Organization: Dis
Lines: 20
Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org
Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org
Message-ID: <20250103131404.4cdd218a26c336a706ec5854@127.0.0.1>
References: <vku1po$1k8rs$1@dont-email.me>
	<6137078335c65548999ebb8dd396ad80@www.novabbs.com>
	<vl3633$2o754$1@dont-email.me>
	<bad1b70b32114a2c02b968436a5cc81d@www.novabbs.com>
	<vl8mmf$3tgfi$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89";
	logging-data="96507"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org"
To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org
Cancel-Lock: sha1:lATbtj0BOp0k5hp4LcS/YWvdJjk=
Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org>
X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org
Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org
	id 1979C229782; Fri, 03 Jan 2025 08:14:13 -0500 (EST)
	by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4A2F229765
	for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Fri, 03 Jan 2025 08:14:10 -0500 (EST)
          by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98)
          for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3)
          tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
          (envelope-from <news@eternal-september.org>)
          id 1tThV7-000000017fb-3Ttq; Fri, 03 Jan 2025 14:14:05 +0100
	(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
	 key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256)
	(No client certificate requested)
	by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93CF65FD3E
	for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri,  3 Jan 2025 13:14:03 +0000 (UTC)
Authentication-Results: name/93CF65FD3E; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=127.0.0.1
	id 08E69DC01A9; Fri,  3 Jan 2025 14:14:02 +0100 (CET)
X-Injection-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 14:14:02 +0100 (CET)
X-Newsreader: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32)
X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/AMT9x9AqMKh7wqEZIczeldHsz66E+NLPbiTstNgihLA==
	tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,
	RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED,
	SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST
	autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6
	smtp.eternal-september.org
Bytes: 3377

On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 23:54:41 +1100
MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com> wrote:

[Major snip]
[about cardinal numbers]
> 
> It would be conventional to say that God makes allowances for our human 
> limitations and sensory errors. At a fair and just school, a student is 
> not condemned for not getting 100% in a test; they are in trouble for 
> cheating, bullying, etc. Our moral accountability suggests that we are 
> not robots whose actions are entirely bound by causal determinism.
> 
> 
Are moral sensibilities so easily dismissed as unknowable without a god?
Try "tit-for-tat" as an [at minimum] "ethical" strategy. It works
without any divine intervention.


-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug