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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.panix6.panix.com!nan.users.panix.com!robomod!not-for-mail From: Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> Newsgroups: news.groups.proposals Subject: Re: 1st RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 15:09:02 EST Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Approved: NGP Approval Key <ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org> Message-ID: <20250108210842.79dedbac@ryz.dorfdsl.de> References: <vla2t6$5g57$1@dont-email.me> <677999c5@news.ausics.net> <677a2282$1@news.ausics.net> <20250105082258.0c55387a@ryz.dorfdsl.de> <677a83c6$1@news.ausics.net> <20250105212436.52a5a78b@ryz.dorfdsl.de> <677c94c5$1@news.ausics.net> <20250107210415.0c5f1753@ryz.dorfdsl.de> <677e7828$1@news.ausics.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: reader2.panix.com; posting-host="panix6.panix.com:166.84.1.6"; logging-data="5872"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" Cancel-Lock: sha1:k3Mw6hef+X6JLv1w3ql7CoZViu4= X-NGP-Policy: http://www.big-8.org/~ngp X-NGP-Info-1: Send submissions to ngp@nan.users.panix.com X-NGP-Info-2: Send technical/policy queries to ngp-admin@nan.users.panix.com X-Comment: Moderators do not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. X-Robomod: STUMP <https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/stump> X-Spam-Relay-Country: DE UA UA Authentication-Results: mail1.panix.com; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=dorfdsl.de Authentication-Results: mail1.panix.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=eternal-september.org Authentication-Results: name/E2ED15FD5D; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=dorfdsl.de X-Original-Injection-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 21:08:43 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/fnLYgQAjgGiG14RKBZJpbg4+ajdUPqM4= X-Auth: PGPMoose V2.0 PGP news.groups.proposals iEYEARECAAYFAmd+214ACgkQrPkQbuk9hdsY+QCdGrUQGC/+31nxZJ6N5twiiU+k 7YIAnRg0px33w4bWQ7tch/Gzp+Ri7qyC =0VSV Bytes: 3636 Lines: 39 On 08.01.2025 10:19 Uhr noel wrote: > On Tue, 07 Jan 2025 15:04:29 -0500, Marco Moock wrote: > > > > >> > >> an extra few hundred is hardly going to mater, especially when of > >> the 53419 "Active" /cough/ groups here, I'd be betting 80% or > >> greater are inactive, and have for many years. > > > > I advocate for deleting them. I sometimes go through group lists > > and see groups with interesting topics, but all empty. Not a good > > user experience, so a cleanup is always a good idea. > > I certainly hope you're not baseing these inactive groups like you > did with the group Kev mentioned, you saw nothing, for 10 years you > said, we have posts all throughout, sorry Marco, I hardly think you > are in an appropriate position to call an RFD unless you use multiple > news servers (not all fed by same upstreams) to verify the real > status of the group, I know you're new to the big 8 team, so I hope > you take that as constructive advice. I've checked the alias file for nomod entries and decided to create the RfD to either fix that or propose the deletion. As I don't have my own news server, I can't check the spool. The discussion exists to find such cases and handle them properly. The next RfD won't include rec.arts.movies.reviews. I also tried to find older versions of the alias file, but I didn't find them and the list owner didn't reply to me when I asked. If there is somebody who can provide statistics, I would appreciate that. -- kind regards Marco Send spam to 1736327953muell@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de