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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: Default PATH setting - reduce to something more sensible? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 01:57:55 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <20250123171808.91@kylheku.com> References: <vm5dei$2c7to$1@dont-email.me> <1a876l-53v.ln1@ID-313840.user.individual.net> <20250122120930.74@kylheku.com> <ccr96l-eot.ln1@ID-313840.user.individual.net> <vmthmu$3bb88$1@news.xmission.com> <20250123134647.436@kylheku.com> <87v7u5m9m5.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <87y0z1595p.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2025 02:57:55 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7f33a37540ba8b226dd6885cb0d9398b"; logging-data="2016349"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+xqHjvXo04E6GVz0R/e88zUcNqSOD/zfQ=" User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KyuASrGvW5kfHgmRzI8ULQB6s+Y= Bytes: 3142 On 2025-01-24, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote: > Here's my bug report: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2025-01/msg00114.html The documentation's wording that is second most relevant to this issue is: "Each variable assignment is checked for unquoted tilde-prefixes immediately following a ':' or the first '='. In these cases, tilde expansion is also performed. Consequently, one may use filenames with tildes in assignments to PATH, MAILPATH, and CDPATH, and the shell assigns the expanded value." In particular, the "Consequently," suggests that it is /as a consequence/ of the above requirements (expansion of unescaped tildes in variable assignments), and no other requirements, that it is possible to tildes in PATH! I say second most relevant, because I the most relevant passage in the GNU Info manual: 6.11 Bash POSIX Mode [ ... ] The following list is what's changed when 'POSIX mode' is in effect: 1. [ ... ] [ ... ] 19. Literal tildes that appear as the first character in elements of the PATH variable are not expanded as described above under Tilde Expansion. Aha! This is the very feature: leading literal tildes in the PATH elements being expanded, disabled by POSIX mode (such as invocation as #!/bin/sh). But Tilde Expansion mentions no such thing! That's where the documentation would have to be, to fix the dangling reference above. Still, the requirement itself can be deemed as being documented by point 19 above; it implies that when Bash is in POSIX mode, tildes are somehow expanded. Though the promised detailed description is missing, it cannot reasonably be anything other than replacement by $HOME, which is the actual behavior that can be inferred from experiments. -- TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca