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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Cost of handling misaligned access Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 21:19:32 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <20250206211932.00001022@yahoo.com> References: <5lNnP.1313925$2xE6.991023@fx18.iad> <vnosj6$t5o0$1@dont-email.me> <2025Feb3.075550@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <wi7oP.2208275$FOb4.591154@fx15.iad> <2025Feb4.191631@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vo061a$2fiql$1@dont-email.me> <20250206000143.00000dd9@yahoo.com> <2025Feb6.115939@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20250206152808.0000058f@yahoo.com> <vo2iqq$30elm$1@dont-email.me> <vo2p33$31lqn$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2025 20:19:33 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1fb8e3ea2e3901863da3686b141594ac"; logging-data="3112433"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+AHWahwrVj8Ti5DfU6ytmqTxj65LZyCY8=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:gtKllYAPQ4XDR5YSoAiN6kMlREE= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 3155 On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:47:30 +0100 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> wrote: > Terje Mathisen wrote: > > Michael S wrote: =20 > >> The point of my proposal is not reduction of loop overhead and not > >> reduction of the # of x86 instructions (in fact, with my proposal > >> the # of x86 instructions is increased), but reduction in # of > >> uOps due to reuse of loaded values. > >> The theory behind it is that most typically in code with very high > >> IPC like the one above the main bottleneck is the # of uOps that > >> flows through rename stage. =20 > >=20 > > Aha! I see what you mean: Yes, this would be better if the > >=20 > > =C2=A0 VPAND reg,reg,[mem] > >=20 > > instructions actually took more than one cycle each, but as the > > size of the arrays were just 1000 bytes each (250 keys + 250 > > locks), everything fits easily in $L1. (BTW, I did try to add 6 > > dummy keys and locks just to avoid any loop end overhead, but that > > actually ran slower.) =20 >=20 > I've just tested it by running either 2 or 4 locks in parallel in the=20 > inner loop: The fastest time I saw actually did drop a smidgen, from=20 > 5800 ns to 5700 ns (for both 2 and 4 wide), with 100 ns being the > timing resolution I get from the Rust run_benchmark() function. >=20 > So yes, it is slightly better to run a stripe instead of just a > single row in each outer loop. >=20 > Terje >=20 Assuming that your CPU is new and runs at decent frequency (4-4.5 GHz), the results are 2-3 times slower than expected. I would guess that it happens because there are too few iterations in the inner loop. Turning unrolling upside down, as I suggested in the previous post, should fix it. Very easy to do in C with intrinsic. Probably not easy in Rust.