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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 13:22:09 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: <20250225132209.00006cdd@gmail.com> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <1smdnSjX3YoxgWf7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <llv30aFa6uvU3@mid.individual.net> <vde4b8$268qv$22@dont-email.me> <1396870532.749421730.052473.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <wrapper-20241001111737@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <vpl5uk$hhk$3@reader1.panix.com> <vpl91g$25q46$1@dont-email.me> <1976765442.762208809.808387.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <20250225130315.00004e34@gmail.com> <lhqvP.1323465$if26.592741@fx13.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 22:22:14 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="41a5a88272213068d0b7cbe8a2857cb5"; logging-data="2271593"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+PTMcjLKQmD+4ftosRgcT/Uq6T8a0jBXU=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:SirRuJ2JFg7LN3Bbz/T/WVprwHg= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 2169 On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 21:06:25 GMT scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote: > From what I've seen of the PDP-10, the VAX-11 instruction set > was superior. I'm sure the PDP-10 folks will disagree, but > simply thinking about character handling on the PDP-10 gives one > a headache. Now, for *real* fun, try the PDP-8, where you don't even have a subtract instruction...! (Truthfully, I kind of enjoy it - it has a very ultra-minimalist tinkerer feel, like working on an oldschool single-cylinder lawnmower or a classic VW. But goodness does it make you *think* about how to synthesize a bunch of things we take for granted on pretty much *any* other architecture...)