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From: Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc>
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Subject: Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope for privacy
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 14:20:26 +0300
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D to Salvador Mirzo:

> > The web is like that.  A website sends you to another
> > one.  This is decentralization.  No NNTP servers send
> > you to another one, except those that have peers, but
> > then it's as if they're all the same.  My idea is to
> > make NNTP servers more like the web.
>
> That would be a nice take on NNTP. A kind of "federated"
> nntp model, as opposed to todays standardize and "global"
> version. Federated is perhaps not the right word for it.
>
> I think I see your vision here... we could think of the
> local nntp servers as small communities, you could opt-in
> to make them public, keep them private, or just register
> them with a search engine if you want.
>
> That model also would avoid all the newsgroup hierarchy
> stuff, you just name your groups what ever you want, and
> you can decide to setup peers with other communities you
> know.

Is the difference from the current Usenet so big?  There
already are many servers, public and private, and peering
with one another.  news.tilde.club is an example of a small
NNTP community.

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