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From: Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
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Subject: Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust?
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 17:35:21 EDT
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On 2025-03-10, Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote:
> [Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals]
>
> I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a
> new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust
> programming language (https://rust-lang.org/).

Grownups interested in Rust should have a place for discussing it in
which "anything goes", and Usenet is the best forum in the world for
that.

Now, I strongly suspect that a Rust newsgroup will be ignored by pretty
much the entire current Rust demographic---but it doesn't matter.

Usenet has no security.  People can use fake identies easily.  The
authenticty of next to nothing can be ascertained.  It's not a "safe"
environment. Anyone can say anything. You cannot enforce anything
resembling a code of conduct.

Core Rust development discussions (the sane people) are certainly not
going to move to Usenet, where they cannot enforce their rules.

Most of the remaining demographic clustered around Rust cannot wrap
their heads around that something like Usenet is even allowed to exist.
It mainly consists of paranoid, security-obsessed freaks who are running
from something, and includes a surprising number of social activists.

A Rust forum repugnant to them could foster alterantive narratives.
It would be a benefit to Rust, even if in all likelihood small.

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