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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.panix6.panix.com!nan.users.panix.com!robomod!not-for-mail From: Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> Newsgroups: news.groups.proposals,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.programming Subject: Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 17:35:21 EDT Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Approved: NGP Approval Key <ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org> Message-ID: <20250310114140.525@kylheku.com> References: <vqmi1p$f1f$1@reader1.panix.com> Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix6.panix.com:166.84.1.6"; logging-data="25134"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.4-9 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UyUqUeQCNRehgwtwp88+UPPXkY4= X-NGP-Policy: http://www.big-8.org/~ngp X-NGP-Info-1: Send submissions to ngp@nan.users.panix.com X-NGP-Info-2: Send technical/policy queries to ngp-admin@nan.users.panix.com X-Comment: Moderators do not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. X-Robomod: STUMP <https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/stump> X-Spam-Relay-Country: DE FI DE X-Spam-DCC: www.nova53.net: mailcrunch1.panix.com 1206; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Authentication-Results: mail1.panix.com; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=kylheku.com Authentication-Results: mail1.panix.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=eternal-september.org Authentication-Results: name/D950162293; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=kylheku.com X-Original-Injection-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 21:57:53 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18EXnxxhGKbTHUC3n1gUx9jqAqc721FusDEpRex4GCUBw== X-Auth: PGPMoose V2.0 PGP news.groups.proposals iEYEARECAAYFAmfPWxkACgkQrPkQbuk9hdsAGACfTryfoC3jSxX3WfLa8DYBcNTP WRIAnjfU7pM/MESyNYwQZBbAdIpTIDBT =GTxY Bytes: 3379 Lines: 34 On 2025-03-10, Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote: > [Note: Followup-To: set to news.groups.proposals] > > I'd like to open informal discussion around possibly creating a > new newsgroup, comp.lang.rust, for discussion of the Rust > programming language (https://rust-lang.org/). Grownups interested in Rust should have a place for discussing it in which "anything goes", and Usenet is the best forum in the world for that. Now, I strongly suspect that a Rust newsgroup will be ignored by pretty much the entire current Rust demographic---but it doesn't matter. Usenet has no security. People can use fake identies easily. The authenticty of next to nothing can be ascertained. It's not a "safe" environment. Anyone can say anything. You cannot enforce anything resembling a code of conduct. Core Rust development discussions (the sane people) are certainly not going to move to Usenet, where they cannot enforce their rules. Most of the remaining demographic clustered around Rust cannot wrap their heads around that something like Usenet is even allowed to exist. It mainly consists of paranoid, security-obsessed freaks who are running from something, and includes a surprising number of social activists. A Rust forum repugnant to them could foster alterantive narratives. It would be a benefit to Rust, even if in all likelihood small. -- TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca