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From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Motivation of tccc mainatainers (Was: Python recompile)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:25:35 +0200
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 16:52:24 +0000
bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:

> On 12/03/2025 14:32, Michael S wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 14:04:16 +0000
> > bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 12/03/2025 08:53, Michael S wrote:  
> >>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 00:43:51 -0000 (UTC)
> >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 00:58:43 +0200, Michael S wrote:
> >>>>     
> >>>>> BTW, I think that tcc is doing damage to itself by refusal to
> >>>>> support ucrt variant of Microsoft's C RTL.  
> >>>>
> >>>> Damaging their market share and hurting their revenues?  
> >>>
> >>> I don't know what exactly motivates people to continue to maintain
> >>> tcc after all fun things, like, for example, writing working
> >>> compiler*, are done years ago. But it seems that extending user
> >>> base and increasing satisfaction of existing users is not totally
> >>> unimportant for this people.  
> >>
> >> Tcc is a more important product than you might think. It is a
> >> compact program of 200-300KB that can turn C source code into
> >> binary. 
> > 
> > You post does not answer the question in hand, which is "What
> > motivates current tcc maintainers to go on?"  
> 
> I thought I did. It seems a reasonably well-known compiler with some 
> interesting use-cases where a big product may be unsuited.
> 
> I'm sure there are enough users world-wide for it to be worth 
> maintaining, and people willing to do that.
>

That answer why maintaining tcc is a good thing for community. It does
not answer why it is good for maintainers.

> There are also plenty of people interested in messing with compilers
> or who want to contribute to such projects. Tcc's compiler comprises
> some 36 .c and .h files; gcc is more like 85,000 files.
> 
> So Tcc would be simpler to work with, given 99.95% fewer files, and
> to make a noticeable difference to!
> 

It is unlikely that existence of such tweakers makes life of
responsible maintainers any easier. The opposite is more likely.
Now, it is possible that harder life is what they seek.