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From: Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2025 17:22:36 +0200
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 15:00:17 -0000 (UTC)
Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 15:32:32 +0100
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wibbled:
> >On 24/03/2025 15:07, bart wrote:  
> >> What was strange was that that one view was shared by pretty much 
> >> everyone in comp.lang.c.  
> >
> >Do you know what the people in comp.lang.c have in common?
> >
> >We program in C.
> >
> >Do you know /why/ people program in C?
> >
> >There can be many reasons, but a very common one is that they want
> >fast resulting binaries.  Most serious programmers are familiar with
> >more than one language, and pretty much all other languages are
> >higher level, easier, and have higher developer productivity than C
> >- but the resulting binaries are almost always slower.
> >
> >C programmers are typically not bothered about build times because
> >a) their build times are rarely high (Scott's projects are C++), and
> >b), they are willing to sacrifice high build times if it means more 
> >efficient run times.  
> 
> I'm not sure what kind of build time he's looking for either. On this
> Mac ARM laptop I can compile a 7600 line utility I wrote in C in 0.8
> seconds real time, and that is using a makefile with 18 seperate
> source files and a header and includes link time. So unless he's
> rebuilding the linux kernel every day I don't see what the problem is.
> 
> loki$ ls *.c *.h | wc -l
>       19
> loki$ wc -l *.c *.h
> :
> :
>      691 globals.h
>     7602 total
> loki$ time make
> :
> :
> real	0m0.815s
> user	0m0.516s
> sys	0m0.252s
> 
> 

You would illustrate you point better if you run 'time make -B'.