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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid
rebuttals
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 23:44:59 -0500
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On 3/4/25 7:39 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 3/4/2025 5:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 3/4/25 9:17 AM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 3/4/2025 3:14 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>> Op 04.mrt.2025 om 04:07 schreef olcott:
>>>>> int DD()
>>>>> {
>>>>> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>>> if (Halt_Status)
>>>>> HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>> return Halt_Status;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> _DD()
>>>>> [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping
>>>>> [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping
>>>>> [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local
>>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>>>>> [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04
>>>>> [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>>> [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f
>>>>> [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d
>>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>>> [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp
>>>>> [00002154] 5d pop ebp
>>>>> [00002155] c3 ret
>>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>>>>
>>>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
>>>>> reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
>>>> I wonder why Olcott keeps repeating that HHH fails to reach the
>>>> 'ret' instruction, where the direct execution or world-class
>>>> simulators have no problem to reach the 'ret' instruction of exactly
>>>> the same finite string as input.
>>>
>>> The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of
>>> exactly how DD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its
>>> own "ret" instruction.
>>
>> No,
>
> Meaning:
> (a) You don't have a clue how to do this all of your
> rebuttals have been pure bluster with zero technical
> competence behind them.
>
> (b) You know that I am correct and are simply lying.
>
Nope, it just proves that you can't understand that you yourself proved
that the criteria is impossible to meet, and thus, any HHH that answers,
could not have done a correct simulation.
All you are showing is you are so stupid you can't see that you logic is
just invalid, and you logic is actually based on the use of fallacies.
That you call my statments "lies" when you can't actually defend your
own, just shows how stupid you are and how little you care about actual
facts.
Show a backing to your clains, or just STFU. Your appeal to yourself as
athority just shows how utterly stupid you are.