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From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
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Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 13:34:16 +0000
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On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 1:27:03 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 00:57:59 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 0:44:44 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:45:50 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> "the CPUs are simply I/O managers to the Inference Engines and GPUs."
>>>
>>> That particular Wheel of Reincarnation will never turn that way.
>>>
>>> Why? It comes down to RAM. Those addon processors will never have
>>> access to the sheer quantity of RAM that is available to the CPU. And
>>> motherboard-based CPU RAM is upgradeable, as well, whereas addon cards
>>> tend not to offer this option.
>>
>> He showed a die figure with 256GB of DRAM stacked 8-deep and 2×4-wide.
>
> Was it upgradeable? Or was it soldered in?

Soldered in.
>
>> ... all the CPU has to
>> do is program the I/O MMU to allow them to do their own thing, and deal
>> with the keyboard and mouse activities.
>
> That’s not how interactive timesharing worked in the old days, and it
> certainly won’t be sufficient for interactive work today.

All the interaction is keyboard, mouse, display and internet.
The server can be located anywhere in the world.
>
> You *did* say “servers” though, didh’t you?


Yes, server, not something within 10 feet of user.