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Path: ...!news.tomockey.net!news.samoylyk.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 13:37:25 +0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <2318243ce57284ba469fcbf7270590c9e65929c3.camel@gmail.com> References: <vsn1fu$1p67k$1@dont-email.me> <7EKdnTIUz9UkpXL6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 07:37:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2fd9999668b7945d4fc918a2b92a699a"; logging-data="2734529"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19owBICcB5WFG9wZbwh1eU4" User-Agent: Evolution 3.54.3 (3.54.3-1.fc41) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9P8bn8RU1z69d3OEIAWB5/WduRQ= In-Reply-To: <7EKdnTIUz9UkpXL6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Bytes: 2515 On Fri, 2025-04-04 at 02:41 +0100, Mike Terry wrote: > On 03/04/2025 23:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > > The Cantor diagonal construction is an algorithm for computing an > > incomputable number. >=20 > It is not an algorithm for computing something.=C2=A0 Algorithms are inst= ructions that operate on finite=20 > inputs and must terminate with an answer at some point for every input. >=20 > Also, the number defined by the diagonal construction may or may not be c= omputable, depending on the > list to which it is applied.=C2=A0 (In the technical sense of "computable= numbers" as Turing used the > term.) >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computable_number> >=20 > Regards, > Mike. >=20 > >=20 > > But if there is an algorithm for computing the number, then it is by > > definition a computable number. > >=20 If we say the 'real number' in the diagonal construction is rational number= , it will also fits the description. The author of the wiki (maybe the same as Cantor) was actually talking abou= t=C2=A0 rational number but think they are talking about real number. There are many 'magic', too, in Cantor's set theory. The basic idea of infinity is very simple.=C2=A0 https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumber2-en.txt/d= ownload I don't think Cantor's set theory is worth to debunk, so not in my thesis.