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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Valve frequency multipliers Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2025 07:41:19 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <23d4qjp03ddegarsk2pehvan0gavedg6ph@4ax.com> References: <1r71194.rtliy6v9cf4N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <619spjhdpharvtkl5jgrl01ksup7v2fc9m@4ax.com> <1r73049.n6vab21clqsl6N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <r194qj9ave9ov1cbf2i21ecr10rnsvekgs@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2025 16:41:20 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="826e19893b9ee2eb56e496616f14ffee"; logging-data="2016431"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+GJo2nrWDqVSUZ6yFU71Hw" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:fXgD9P1nblr0f9xubUMKituEpPQ= Bytes: 2840 On Tue, 04 Feb 2025 09:36:38 -0500, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: >On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 15:30:40 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid >(Liz Tuddenham) wrote: > >>legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: >> >>[...] >>> >>> I'd be more selective of the crystal frequency. Two triplers might get >>> you there with a lot less grief. >> >>I regret to say I think you are right :-( >> >>Quintuplers just don't seem to work in those circuits so I have placed >>an order for a 16.656 Mc/s crystal, which will triple-triple to 149.904 >>Mc/s. That will mean bringing the VFO down to a range of 3.904 to 5.904 >>Mc/s, which should be relatively easy. >> >>Revised block diagram at: >>http://www.poppyrecords.co.uk/other/Transceiver/BlockDiag6a.gif >> >>It will make image rejection in the second receiving mixer a little more >>difficult The transmitting mixer is intended to be balanced, so >>rejecting 149.904 Mc/s instead of 150.000 Mc/s from the output will not >>be any more difficult but I may require an extra tuned circuit in the >>later part of the transmitting chain to reduce the level of image >>frequency. >> >>I just hope the new crystal will work in the same circuit as the old one >>and I won't have all the hassle of redesigning it. > >That should have been 6CX8 (6CM8)from the article. > >There are functioning models for 6BL8 (ECF80), which >has a pentode/triode combination. > >I expect just as big a problem in modeling would be in >coupling/filter magnetic components. > >Oscillators never do . . . . > >RL Some fraction of my income comes from an instant-start TCXO-accurate triggered 50 MHz LC oscillator. That was developed with Spice (and a PowerBasic program.)