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From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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Subject: Re: Rant Men's Clothes
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:03:44 -0400
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On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:16:42 -0400, Rhino
<no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:37:31 -0400
>shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:29:24 -0400, Rhino
>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:19:46 -0000 (UTC)
>> >"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> >  
>> >> I am going to rant. I went to a national department store to buy
>> >> button down shirts, which I really needed. A year ago, I'd bought
>> >> several shirts. They were driving me nuts because only one of the
>> >> shirts had a pocket.
>> >> 
>> >> I went through all of the shirts for sale in my size. Not a single
>> >> shirt had a pocket. Who decreed that men's shirts no longer have
>> >> pockets?
>> >>   
>> >Some "fashion" guru has apparently decreed that shirts with pockets
>> >are unfashionable and the manufacturers have apparently kowtowed to
>> >this dictat. I'd say I was surprised but I'm not. It's how they've
>> >rolled for years. I've been trying to find a plain T-shirt with a
>> >chest pocket for at least a couple of years but anytime I go to a
>> >store, there are none to be had. Mind you, I haven't checked every
>> >store or catalogue so maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places....
>> > 
>> 
>> It exists on Amazon. I've bought good quality t-shirts with the chest
>> pocket.
>> 
>That's good to hear. I'll have to order some if I can find something
>plain; I don't want clothes adorned with giant logos for manufacturers. 

Then you are in luck.

Here is just an example of a plain gray t-shirt with a pocket that I
found in a few seconds of searching on Amazon.com.
https://www.amazon.com/Gildan-Cotton-T-Shirt-Pocket-2X-Large/dp/B07MKKRM74/ref=sr_1_17?crid=31411SMIT6SE1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._W3t5lJO7-6MXCfOVfVAPGpMuCYt9i2tLlXutj0F-9TaTVK8aRDVwpOe6m2rK5HoVtUKm6GIGBjIjpMp_gfTL4tBTHBKwqdzkcVWh98QUwxXAWNeaxXjjgC8Pq-lsP7UQhdoD-3m7WDhvUncA_LXAG6h_9R57-rQ_Gpo-UNAUKOhEtZwE9R4YgTQpD8xOUF4dfLIzB6zXaDKog_2Wemj6i_fXV4pebwsJp2A9g2A-SCMblZlGQZhZ1NmqWBP8LCXeq6yFQfjD4ZnaU6kdTh4R0xX5aDX0ZotNpGbFdNoh8g.y6ZA-YSo2Plk_04GqpdcYOjpDdl9ekXhQUf1lYM0A4M&dib_tag=se&keywords=gildan+t+shirts+men&qid=1719784576&sprefix=gildan+%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-17

Damn, that's a long url. All I searched for was
"gildan t shirts men pocket" so you can do the same. If you don't like
their style then probably "T shirts men pocket" would give more
variety to the answer.

>> >> Then the matter of shoes. I need another pair of gym shoes/running
>> >> shoes that fit. I wear them as my regular walking shoe. I have a
>> >> weird shoe size, very long and very narrow.
>> >> 
>> >> We have the men's shoe comspiracy in which manufacturers inflate
>> >> the shoe size and ignore the shoe size standard.
>> >> 
>> >> I saw a large number of shoes offered in my nominal size, so I
>> >> knew it was pointless to try them on. They'd be too small.
>> >> 
>> >> I bought a pair that was nominally a half size larger. It was too
>> >> short.
>> >> 
>> >> The pair I bought that was 2 1/2 sizes larger than my nominal shoe
>> >> size wasn't too short.
>> >>   
>> >Shoes are another peeve for me. That started years ago when I tried
>> >to replace a pair of slippers that had worn out. I couldn't find a
>> >single pair in the mall store I visited and asked one of the staff
>> >about it. He told me they only carried slippers at Christmas time
>> >because that was the only time they sold (or maybe only sold in
>> >significant numbers). I still find that baffling because I used to
>> >wear them year round and wouldn't want to wait until Christmas to
>> >replace a worn-out pair.   
>> 
>> Which is one reason people are switching to buying most items through
>> the Internet.
>>
>I strongly prefer to try a pair of shoes before I buy it. I can picture
>weeks of waiting for packages, trying things on, finding them
>unsatisfactory and sending them back before I finally find something
>suitable. No thank you!

I do too but when I needed a pair and didn't have the time to go
around to different stores to see what they had in stock Amazon made a
good back up. Ended up buying a name brand shoe so the sizing tends to
stay the same. Plus it was next day delivery and free returns. The
free returns is only something I've used once but it was painless.
Especially since I didn't even have to leave the house as they would
pick up the return at your home. Though that likely wouldn't work if I
live back where I spent most of my youth where the nearest actual town
that would have any of the delivery services was about 30 miles away.

 
>> >As for size, I finally found a  good shoe store a few years back, the
>> >kind that actually measured your feet and made sure you got into
>> >shoes that fit; the places I'd been going to for many previous years
>> >were all basically self-serve places where you tried things on and
>> >settled for whatever you found satisfactory, then took it to the
>> >cashier to ring it up. So I bought two very good pairs of shoes at
>> >this newly-discovered store, dress shoes and a pair of sneakers. I
>> >paid more than I was used to but both were on the sale table at
>> >significant discounts so I could have done much worse. Both have
>> >been excellent shoes. I don't wear dress shoes often so those will
>> >probably last the rest of my life. I wear the sneakers all the time
>> >and expect they'll last a few more years yet. 
>> >
>> >I think you need to find a shoe store that still measures your feet
>> >and where the staff still knows more about shoes than how to operate
>> >the cash register. I think those places are increasingly rare but I
>> >have to imagine a city as big as Chicago still has one or two.
>> >(Unfortunately, the one I found has since closed down because the
>> >owner retired.) 
>> >  
>> >> This is more evidence that the world has moved on from me and I
>> >> literally do not fit in. I should just walk to the horizon and fall
>> >> off the edge.  
>> >
>> >That's probably a bit drastic ;-) Try finding different stores to buy
>> >shirts and shoes!   

I don't know. His plan would give him a lot of free exercise since
he's only going to come to the edge of the continent. If he managed to
find a way to keep walking he would only end up back where he started
with the same problems, but some very tired feet.