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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 07:40:32 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <250408f2110a4ef2e56453ac9cf2a1f0ee231363@i2pn2.org> References: <vo6420$3mpmf$1@dont-email.me> <votn1l$pb7c$1@dont-email.me> <5cd9bc55c484f10efd7818ecadf169a11fcc58e1@i2pn2.org> <votq5o$ppgs$1@dont-email.me> <vouu57$12hqt$3@dont-email.me> <vp1jkg$1kstl$1@dont-email.me> <vp1qp1$1m05h$2@dont-email.me> <vp46l6$26r1n$1@dont-email.me> <vp5t55$2gt2s$1@dont-email.me> <vp6pmb$2opvi$1@dont-email.me> <vp8700$30tdq$1@dont-email.me> <vp9ct8$3af6t$1@dont-email.me> <vpav34$3jct4$1@dont-email.me> <vpc3u9$3skb7$1@dont-email.me> <vpcsvk$irt$2@dont-email.me> <vpev2e$fgop$1@dont-email.me> <vpfmpp$j7qb$6@dont-email.me> <vphbnb$10gus$1@dont-email.me> <vpivp4$1fvqe$6@dont-email.me> <vpklrk$21jn9$1@dont-email.me> <vplbnp$25vp2$5@dont-email.me> <b122ed1dc2c636321627d4dfc7936e463f920690@i2pn2.org> <vpltcn$28j3a$6@dont-email.me> <a8b150912bc326cd01c9e9ee89762d12b9fc571e@i2pn2.org> <vpm6hq$2dvrs$4@dont-email.me> <vpmo1m$2g3p0$3@dont-email.me> <vpn9m5$2jkdj$5@dont-email.me> <f556d553eddd6abf8673b902a2e0c51ded0e6423@i2pn2.org> <vporib$2vaf3$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 12:40:32 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2029402"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: <vporib$2vaf3$8@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4258 Lines: 56 On 2/27/25 12:00 AM, olcott wrote: > On 2/26/2025 5:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 2/26/25 9:49 AM, olcott wrote: >>> On 2/26/2025 3:48 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>> Op 26.feb.2025 om 05:50 schreef olcott: >>>>> On 2/25/2025 10:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> You already know that you are stupidly wrong about >>>>> the emulation being incorrect or you would have provided >>>>> the correct emulation sequence long ago. >>>>> >>>>> _DD() >>>>> [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local >>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD >>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) >>>>> [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>>> [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax >>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 >>>>> [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f >>>>> [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d >>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] >>>>> [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp >>>>> [00002154] 5d pop ebp >>>>> [00002155] c3 ret >>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] >>>>> >>>>> What are the first 15 lines of DD correctly emulated by HHH? >>>>> >>>> >>>> The error in the simulation occurs already at the 5th instruction, >>>> the 'call 000015c3'. Instead of simulating this instruction, >>> You dodged the actual question. >>> What are the correct first 15 lines of DD emulated by HHH. >>> >> >> >> And you are missing the point that HHH can not correctly emulate 15 >> line of this DD, as it is missing information and thus the task is >> improperly defined. > > If we assume that HHH emulates the above machine code then > there is NO MORE relevant information needed and we know that > machine address 0000213c of DD is followed by machine address > 00002133 of DD. > Then you assume incorrectly. IT is *IMPOSSIBLE* for a correct pure program emulator to emulate that input past the call instruction. Your ignorance of that fact just proves your stupidity. That you refuse to learn the meanings just proves that you are just a pathetic pathological liar.