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From: mpsilvertone@yahoo.com (HarryLime)
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Subject: Re: Robert Creeley poem
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:51:56 +0000
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On Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:22:17 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:39:48 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:57:09 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:53:52 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 6:41:33 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 0:04:15 +0000, George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article.php?id=255731&group=alt.arts.poetry.comments
>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 16:15:27 +0000, Michael Monkey Peabrain (MPP) aka
>>>>>> "HarryLime" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realized from the content of NancyGene's posts that they were
>>>>>>> intelligent, well-educated, and better written than anyone here.
>>>>>>> Naturally, I asked them to start contributing to the "Sampler."  And I
>>>>>>> was right in doing so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are the opening lines of NancyGene's latest poem:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Yesterdays stack up like piles of read newspapers,
>>>>>>> Cluttering my mind and obstructing my day."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's poetry of the highest quality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The opening line is very good. It's almost as good as the opening line
>>>>>> of Robert Creeleys poem, "The Days Pile Up":
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The days pile up like unread newspapers,"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do hope "Dr." NastyGoon credited Mr. Creeley; otherwise that would be
>>>>>> something they would call, you know -- "plagiarism".
>>>>>
>>>>> Ping Rachel:
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the obert Creeley poem I was telling you about, the one causing
>>>>> such a ruckus here on the poetry newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's George Dance's libelous accusation of plagiarism
>>>
>>> Read the George Dance poem again, he didn't make an accusation, just an
>>> observation.
>>
>> It wasn't a poem, Donkey, it was a post.
>>
>> And, yes, George Dance did make the accusation:
>
> Wrong. As the quoted lines make clear, I'd said it was something that an
> ignorant fool ("Dr. NastyGoon being my example) would call "plagiarism":
>
>> "I do hope "Dr." NastyGoon credited Mr. Creeley; otherwise that would be
>> something they would call, you know -- "plagiarism"."

Your accusation does not make this clear, duplicitous George.

Even if one believes that your use of the childish name "NastyGoon" was
intended to imply "an ignorant fool," such a reading would make your
sentence incomprehensible:

"I do hope [an ignorant fool] credited Mr. Creeley; otherwise that would
be something they would call, you know -- 'plagiarism.'"

Are you saying that one would have to be an ignorant fool to credit
Creeley?  That's what your sentence would be saying if one makes the
substitution.

The truth is that you've libeled NancyGene by falsely accusing her of
plagiarism, and the prospect that she could sue the pants off of you has
got you shaking in your boots and desperately doing everything in your
possible to backtrack.

Even in light of the psychological trauma you undergo at the thought of
having your pants removed, your behavior is inexcusable.

Just man up and apologize already (and you can throw in a second apology
for all the misogynistic sh*t you been spewing, like "cunt."

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