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From: bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor)
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Subject: Re: Poor "Jim Pennino" :-)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2025 09:06:45 +0000
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On Fri, 9 May 2025 6:34:56 +0000, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> ..
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could
>>>>> possibly
>>>>> have.
>>>>
>>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
>>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
>>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>>> tribalism has been heavy.
>
> The inventor of 'scientific racism' was actually Charles Darwin and that
> an Englishman.
>
>>>
>>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
>>
>> They still are.
>>>
>>> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?
>>
>> A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
>> superiority.
>>>
>>> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>>>
>>> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.
>>
>> Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
>> big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
>> of tribe.
>
> No
>
> At least I don't like this interpretation of the word 'nation'.

Subjective.
>
> It is in common use in anglo-american media, however, but still wrong.

For you.
>
> E.g. they call Apaches (for instance) 'first nation'.

Because there were no other tribes in their areas.
>
> That is racism and tribalism and by no means acceptable.

Nothing racist about it. Racism is saying my tribe is better because of
....
>
>
> Therefore 'nation' is another name for an independent state.

An independent state could have a number of nations or tribes within it.
>
> To create a 'superset of tribes' as 'nation' and to identify this with
> the population of a country is simply unacceptable.

Subjective petulance noted.
>
> In case of Germany this is also totally wrong, because the Germanic
> tribes were mainly not living in the area which is today occupied by
> Germany.

Now those people who call themselves German form a superset of tribes
that have speaking German as a binding factor.

WOOF woof-woof woof woof woof-woof

Bertietaylor
>
>
> TH

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