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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 07:15:35 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <263cb66dc2eb91ddf08a2e0d0cc247455430634b@i2pn2.org> References: <vmo1bs$1rnl$1@dont-email.me> <aaeb6a0f-0a2c-41ee-aecd-24d1532da5eb@att.net> <vo1tbc$2sgko$1@dont-email.me> <11e634bd-c1d3-4d72-9e18-be6ca22b4742@att.net> <vo2pit$31hlr$1@dont-email.me> <aa038824-04c7-4fde-87f4-b9c3316d30a1@att.net> <vo32p6$3393i$1@dont-email.me> <999fb07e-7bef-4423-afeb-a08922613c65@att.net> <vo5cvb$3hukd$1@dont-email.me> <be2d9f3e-be38-451a-8598-de19a949cf1e@att.net> <vo7c1q$7ne$3@dont-email.me> <0d24c3fd-cd63-4e21-9dd4-ab1360560b09@att.net> <cc879e12-d325-48b6-be78-87b8b36cb50d@att.net> <vo8jr7$7mh2$2@dont-email.me> <79920977-902d-4f59-a11c-497383221c82@att.net> <voa1r5$ib75$1@dont-email.me> <468b9c37-ba93-485c-8685-4b320e168251@att.net> <vocig1$15cth$1@dont-email.me> <68bab5c2-50d3-43fc-be0d-51e01c5952bb@att.net> <vof5e4$1n7gr$1@dont-email.me> <a52c053a-8537-4f77-849d-aba3cf51283f@att.net> <vog83h$1rvmp$4@dont-email.me> <1e5cb0d4-f447-4fa7-b1e9-8056b03d27a2@att.net> <vohp3q$28sjf$1@dont-email.me> <voi2vf$2aov0$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:15:36 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3882971"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: <voi2vf$2aov0$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US On 2/12/25 7:08 AM, FromTheRafters wrote: > WM wrote : >> On 12.02.2025 01:38, Jim Burns wrote: >>> On 2/11/2025 2:23 PM, WM wrote: >>>> On 11.02.2025 18:42, Jim Burns wrote: >>>>> On 2/11/2025 4:31 AM, WM wrote: >>> >>>>>> The set F of FISONs which can be removed >>>>>> without changing the assumed result UF = ℕ >>>>>> is the infinite set F of all FISONs. >>>>> >>>>> Yes. >>>> >>>> Fine. >>>> >>>>>> This is proven by just the same induction >>>>>> as Zermelo proves his infinite set Z. >>>>>> >>>>>> Either you accept both proofs or none. >>> >>> What is this "both proofs"? >> >> One is Zermelo's proof by induction that there is an infiite set Z. > > It's an axiom, not a theorem. WM doesn't know the difference.