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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Relativity is a pseudoscience II. The Hafele-Keating HOAX, Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 18:31:40 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <26941f2d0495cb7f14664b86e1860fac@www.novabbs.com> References: <dad338831baa98f3eb1ca50452fd9401@www.novabbs.com> <97c2c8397e3438c708a9737638c6400b@www.novabbs.com> <347da3280f1b9e1b56bc9bd887b50170@www.novabbs.com> <d15846084bc93f836a8e034e52fb77e5@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1815009"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="hWiuCAeR3KEZYJfTvV11n0qrRi6oqW/zjvEZQQGun9A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$YgMAV.upGDWHdjbqh9CHKe5u6QSSZ6b5lALjVZUEjjmzNm0wj3vFS X-Rslight-Posting-User: f685b96694175b2ad43ead343ead0a9c0082fe88 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2218 Lines: 25 Lawrence: You mean time dilation. It's length which is affirmed that contracts IN the moving frame, but ONLY as PERCEIVED by the observer at relative rest. Yes, most of the converted to this cult, since around 1910. The first experiment, when atomic clocks didn't exist, was performed in 1933 by a couple of cretins who used the concept of LATERAL DOPPLER SHIFTING. They made a rotating platform and "measured" a lateral radiation (which violated SR principles, as it was a platform subjected to rotation in a lame lab). It was the Ives-Stilwell 1933 experiment, using electrons. It was repeated many times in the next decades, even using Gamma rays. The old member Dono (an EE) was crazy about this, and wrote many pseudopapers on ResearchGate. He had serious mental issues, due to his exposure to relativity since 2006, until Google group disappeared this year. You can read about that here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ives%E2%80%93Stilwell_experiment The first experiment involving moving atomic clocks was the 1971 Hafele-Keating HOAX, hence their undue fame.