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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: sci.logic
Subject: Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic
 knowledge
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 21:58:07 -0400
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On 4/2/25 9:33 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 4/2/2025 5:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 4/2/25 12:03 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 4/2/2025 4:32 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2025-04-01 17:56:25 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/1/2025 1:33 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-03-31 18:33:26 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anything the contradicts basic facts or expressions
>>>>>>> semantically entailed from these basic facts is proven
>>>>>>> false.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything that follows from true sentences by a truth preserving
>>>>>> transformations is true. If you can prove that a true sentence
>>>>>> is false your system is unsound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah so we finally agree on something.
>>>>> What about the "proof" that detecting inconsistent
>>>>> axioms is impossible? (I thought that I remebered this).
>>>>
>>>> A method that can always determine whether a set of axioms is 
>>>> inconsistent
>>>> does not exist. However, there are methods that can correctly determine
>>>> about some axiom systems that they are inconsistent and fail on others.
>>>>
>>>> The proof is just another proof that some function is not Turing 
>>>> computable.
>>>>
>>>
>>> A finite set of axioms would seem to always be verifiable
>>> as consistent or inconsistent.  This may be the same for
>>> a finite list of axiom schemas.
>>>
>>
>> Think of how many statements can be constructed from a finite alphabet 
>> of letters.
>>
>> Can you "test" every statement to see if it is consistant?
>>
> 
> Is "LKNSDFKLWRLKLKNKUKQWEEYIYWQFGFGH" consistent or inconsistent?
> Try to come up with a better counter-example.

It depends on what each of those letters mean.

You should know better than that, but you don't, because you really are 
too stupid.

> 
>> Sorry, you are just showing how limited your thinking ability actually 
>> is.
>>
>> That fact that YOU can't imagine the problem, doesn't mean it can be 
>> there.
> 
>