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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR--- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 09:20:24 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <27b6da57f540cd39d2918411d8c94789678e3f45@i2pn2.org> References: <vq5qqc$1j128$2@dont-email.me> <vq6g9l$1ptg9$2@dont-email.me> <vq722k$1tapm$1@dont-email.me> <vq751g$1t7oc$1@dont-email.me> <vq78ni$1u8bl$3@dont-email.me> <5e786c32c2dcc88be50183203781dcb6a5d8d046@i2pn2.org> <vq866t$23nt0$1@dont-email.me> <2002d599ebdfb7cd5a023881ab2faca9801b219d@i2pn2.org> <vq8l3d$29b9l$1@dont-email.me> <4426787ad065bfd0939e10b937f3b8b2798d0578@i2pn2.org> <vq8mam$29b9l$5@dont-email.me> <920b573567d204a5c792425b09097d79ee098fa5@i2pn2.org> <vq9lvn$2ei4j$3@dont-email.me> <4453bc0c1141c540852ea2223a7fedefc93f564c@i2pn2.org> <vqadoh$2ivg7$2@dont-email.me> <vqae74$2ivcn$1@dont-email.me> <vqag6q$2jief$1@dont-email.me> <vqagb7$2ivcn$3@dont-email.me> <vqakhi$2jief$3@dont-email.me> <vqalvr$2ivcn$5@dont-email.me> <vqaq2s$2lgq7$2@dont-email.me> <vqasm4$2lue4$1@dont-email.me> <vqb43k$2mueq$1@dont-email.me> <vqb4ub$2lue4$3@dont-email.me> <vqb683$2mueq$2@dont-email.me> <vqb6f4$2lue4$4@dont-email.me> <vqb6qr$2mueq$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 09:20:24 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3086371"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 4013 Lines: 49 Am Wed, 05 Mar 2025 22:03:39 -0600 schrieb olcott: > On 3/5/2025 9:57 PM, dbush wrote: >> On 3/5/2025 10:53 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 3/5/2025 9:31 PM, dbush wrote: >>>> On 3/5/2025 10:17 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 3/5/2025 7:10 PM, dbush wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> In other words, you know that what you're working on has nothing to >>>>>> do with the halting problem, but you don't care. >>>>> >>>>> In other words I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY BULLSHIT DEFLECTION. >>>>> You have proven that you know these things pretty well SO QUIT THE >>>>> SHIT! >>>> You want people to accept that HHH(DD) does in fact report that >>>> changing the code of HHH to an unconditional simulator and running >>>> HHH(DD) will not halt. >>>> >>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "ret" >>> instruction and terminate normally. >> >> In other words, replacing the code of HHH with an unconditional >> simulator and subsequently running HHH(DD) does not halt, which you >> previously agreed is correct: >> On 2/22/2025 1:02 PM, olcott wrote: >> > On 2/22/2025 11:10 AM, dbush wrote: >> >> On 2/22/2025 11:43 AM, olcott wrote: >> >>> The first point is DD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly >> >>> terminate normally by reaching its own "return" instruction. >> >> >> >> In other words, if the code of HHH is replaced with an >> >> unconditional simulator then it can be shown that DD is >> >> non-halting and therefore HHH(DD)==0 is correct. >> >> >> > Wow finally someone that totally gets it. >> >> If you disagree, explain why this is different. >> In particular, give an example where X correctly emulated by Y is >> different from replacing the code of Y with an unconditional simulator >> and subsequently running Y(X). > > I may not have enough time left to change the subject and endlessly go > through anything but the exact point. You used to have enough time. > The purpose of these posts is so that my posthumous reviewers will > understand. There won't be any. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.