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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
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Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see...
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 21:21:46 -0400
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On 7/30/24 10:21 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 7/30/2024 1:52 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-07-29 14:07:53 +0000, olcott said:
>>
>>> HHH(Infinite_Recursion) and HHH(DDD) show the same non-halting
>>> behavior pattern in their derived execution traces of their
>>> inputs.
>>
>> Hard to believe as their behaviour is so different and you don't
>> say what pattern the see. 
> 
> *Its all in the part that you erased*
> 
> *Infinite_Recursion correctly emulated by HHH*
> *THREE lines repeat with no conditional branch instructions*
> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored at:113934
> [0000215a][00113924][00113928] 55         push ebp      ; 1st line
> [0000215b][00113924][00113928] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; 2nd line
> [0000215d][00113920][00002162] e8f8ffffff call 0000215a ; 3rd line
> [0000215a][0011391c][00113924] 55         push ebp      ; 1st line
> [0000215b][0011391c][00113924] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; 2nd line
> [0000215d][00113918][00002162] e8f8ffffff call 0000215a ; 3rd line
> Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped
> 
> *DDD correctly emulated by HHH*
> *FOUR lines repeat with no conditional branch instructions*
> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored at:113895
> [00002177][00113885][00113889] 55         push ebp      ; 1st line
> [00002178][00113885][00113889] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; 2nd line
> [0000217a][00113881][00002177] 6877210000 push 00002177 ; push DDD
> [0000217f][0011387d][00002184] e853f4ffff call 000015d7 ; call HHH

But this is an incorrect emulation, proving you are just a stupid liar.

emulation of the "Call 000015d7" must be followed by the emulation of 
the code at 00-0015d7.

If it isn't part of the input, then the input just isn't a correct 
representation of the program and you are also show to be a liar.

> [00002177][0015e2ad][0015e2b1] 55         push ebp      ; 1st line
> [00002178][0015e2ad][0015e2b1] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; 2nd line
> [0000217a][0015e2a9][00002177] 6877210000 push 00002177 ; push DDD
> [0000217f][0015e2a5][00002184] e853f4ffff call 000015d7 ; call HHH
> Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped
> 
> 

And, if you say that HHH knows that 000015d7 is the address of an 
emulator, then you also are a liar, because it isn't, it is a decider 
that only CONDITIONALLY emulates the input, and thus can not be 
correctly replaced by ANY valid definition of emulation with the code 
that it is conditionally emulating.

Sorry, you are just proving that you are nothing but a stupid liar, as 
everything you say is based on your lies.